Destructive Flash Mob At Jacksonville Walmart

Started by nomeus, July 18, 2012, 01:06:36 PM

Garden guy

This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children.   Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.

Know Growth


Lem Turner location.....yawn

.....what are the chances Normandy and 103rd street goes this direction?

CityLife

Quote from: Garden guy on July 18, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children.   Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.

Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. As many lawyers, doctors, CEO's, etc would be arrested as would lower class people. In fact, a recent Florida Governor would have been arrested while in office.

TheCat

Bridgetroll, ha, yes, I bet some of those kids bought stuff. I should find the videos of the mob scenes where America's adults trample over other adults to buy stuff. As long as you are buying any behavior is okay, right? God forbid, you act foolish when your not forking over money. That's stupid. Is that how we define proper behavior? This is over $1,500 dollars which I will bet $15 is totally made up. Police asks wal-mart manager "how much do you think was stolen or damaged?"

Wal-mart manager says "well, based on our flash mob algorithms we are estimating that each youth stole $3.00 worth of product and damaged another $2.00 worth of goods and infrastructure, 300 x $5 = $1500. But we won't know the full extent of the damage until we do our quarterly inventory in 45 days."

I have to give those kids credit for self-restraint. Did anyone else see the giant containers of watermelons? I'd take everyone's commentary on wal-mart behavioral ethics a little more seriously if those watermelons were smashed all over the floor. But that didn't happen. In fact, from that video. I don't see kids doing anything but being excited and loud and possibly, obnoxious.

Instead, of freaking out about what the kids actually did which is nothing. Let's talk about the real fear...what if it had become something serious. That's the scary part, right? It didn't though. To make some statement about black culture based on a three minute video of youth fleeing a party and congregating at another location is wrong. To say things like, that's "why black people have such a bad rep." is also wrong.

Garden Guy, to call those kids stupid. Or, their parents stupid...really? You know, America does a really good job putting people in jail. It's amazing how effective that hasn't been.



danem

Quote from: wsansewjs on July 18, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
What the blazing f*** is this? I betcha someone on the internet had a great idea and got them together.

-Josh

The kid who did the cellphone filming claims to have been just a bystander...who decided that it would be a great thing to put on youtube!!!

AshleyLauren

Quote from: Know Growth on July 18, 2012, 05:40:51 PM

Lem Turner location.....yawn

.....what are the chances Normandy and 103rd street goes this direction?

Very Very high!!! It would have last a lot longer at those two.

The video originally posted has been deleted off youtube. The video I found was very shaky. So what I could tell was, essentially a bunch of kids (300?) decided to run inside Walmart on Lem Turner. Throw a few things around, grab a piece of candy and run out the door?? While I get it could have been a very bad situation and I am sure the scared the hell out of the employees. The fact that they got 300 kids together to pull a prank like that and they didn't destroy is impressive. I am with theCAt on this one. If they had meant harm those watermelons would have been flying at one another's heads.

danem

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-17/story/saturday-night-flash-mob-takes-over-jacksonville-wal-mart

According to this, shots were fired outside that Wal-mart. 

I don't think this is a small thing. If a group that large can get away with that, they could be emboldened to do worse.

Know Growth

#23
Episodes never experienced in the past are of concern to some.And some not.
Many have commented on the reporting lag time.
Next:Possibly Normandy Blvd,103rd street treated as casual happening.
But not as likely at say,Clay,St. Johns.We see here a hint to regional demographics,driver behind militant anti Duval theme.

As kids in 60's and 70's era North Miami we never would have conducted ourselves in this manner. A certain discernment.

Oh,and boy did we embrace "diversity".

By the the time I entered the ninth grade North dade public schools were in the beginning stages of desegregation.
We were committed and lenient,even when gravely threatened by the recent blck school mates.Schools would close early for the summer due to riot threats.But we were optimistic,hopeful,accepting.

The once idyllic neighborhood of my youth remains not so diverse.predominant white populatioin swapped for predominant black population.

it is unsafe to walk the streets of my youth.Former neighbors rarely visit the place,depressed over the transformation.

A recent round of North Dade crime has been blamed on the heat.
North Dade CVS Flash Mob ocurred earlier this year.Chamber of Commerce picture perfect weather.

We didn't have air conditioning at school until about the ninth grade.


Ocklawaha

Quote from: CityLife on July 18, 2012, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Garden guy on July 18, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children.   Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.

Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. As many lawyers, doctors, CEO's, etc would be arrested as would lower class people. In fact, a recent Florida Governor would have been arrested while in office.

Exactly, ANYONE that has had the distinct displeasure of raising a teenager can attest to the FACT that kids do STUPID things, and good kids often do STUPID and even occasionally DEADLY things. It's possible through DNA, bad luck, or just plain meanness that a excellent parents have kiddies in prison, in gangs, or in cemeteries. When little Johnny vanishes for the night, there is not a damn thing mom and dad can do to 'fix' whatever jam he might come across.

AshleyLauren

Quote from: danem on July 18, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-17/story/saturday-night-flash-mob-takes-over-jacksonville-wal-mart

According to this, shots were fired outside that Wal-mart. 

I don't think this is a small thing. If a group that large can get away with that, they could be emboldened to do worse.

All I did was watch the video. That is an entirely different thing if true.

I-10east

HLN dubbed the Lem Turner crew, the "Smash Mob" although they're seemed to be more petty thief, than smashing. When I think of 'flash mobs' I think of a safe environment, with a group of people doing Michael Jackson's thriller dance, or something like that. Either way, they continue to ensure that the 'thuggish black stereotype' stay alive. I really don't understand my (black) race. What I look at as 'telling it like it is' ;Unfortunately if you're white, and mildly criticize aspects concerning the black community, than you're deemed a 'racist', and if you're black, then you are an Uncle Tom. All of those youtube links to Lem Turner Wal-Mart involving violent people of my race speaks for itself.   

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Know Growth on July 18, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Episodes never experienced in the past are of concern to some.And some not.
Many have commented on the reporting lag time.
Next:Possibly Normandy Blvd,103rd street treated as casual happening.
But not as likely at say,Clay,St. Johns.We see here a hint to regional demographics,driver behind militant anti Duval theme.

As kids in 60's and 70's era North Miami we never would have conducted ourselves in this manner. A certain discernment.

Oh,and boy did we embrace "diversity".

By the the time I entered the ninth grade North dade public schools were in the beginning stages of desegregation.
We were committed and lenient,even when gravely threatened by the recent blck school mates.Schools would close early for the summer due to riot threats.But we were optimistic,hopeful,accepting.

The once idyllic neighborhood of my youth remains not so diverse.predominant white populatioin swapped for predominant black population.

it is unsafe to walk the streets of my youth.Former neighbors rarely visit the place,depressed over the transformation.

A recent round of North Dade crime has been blamed on the heat.
North Dade CVS Flash Mob ocurred earlier this year.Chamber of Commerce picture perfect weather.

We didn't have air conditioning at school until about the ninth grade.



Yes, Miami in the 70s, the very picture of law-abiding tranquility...



TheCat

I10east, we would not be having social commentary about white culture if the teens were white. That's pretty much it. We only seem to typify and stereotype a culture when it is the "other." It's not about being an uncle tom nor is it about being a racist it is about the irrelevancy of the race topic to the subject, mobbing wal-mart. It's irrelevant that these kids were black.

I was a kid once. And, I was of the rebellious quality. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt teenagers of all races know how to misrepresent their cultural heritage. I feel very confident, and this is an assumptive guess, that most kids did not get a "you're making us look bad" talk...in terms of race relations, anyway.

KnowGrowth, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. My interpretation, the very hopeful white people wanted to love the black people. But those black people ruined everything. Is that correct? If so, what exactly are you saying? Do you think that that story has been played in reverse at any point in American history?

TheCat


Remember this...how many seconds do you think were spent in discussion about the modern state of white canadians?

http://www.youtube.com/v/1q5V6DKH3bw