Jags Draft

[duvaldude08]

Emergency eye surgery doesn't sound good, especially if he loses sight in that eye.  Does he continue to play if blindness threatens?

As for the draft, I agree with trading back and amassing some more picks.  I think Alshon Jeffery will be a great receiver.  He goes and gets the ball.   If they can trade back and get him with additional picks this would be best plan of action.   

If they draft @ 7 I would rather them take Floyd over Claiborne.  Floyd is moving up on some boards and if Blackmon and Floyd are gone, trading out becomes even more important.  Wasting 7 on another Harvey or Groves type is probably what Gene Gene will do, but a guy can hope right?

Well of course if he loses sight in his eye then thats different. If he had surgery on it to me thats an indication the problem could be corrected. Dejay Karim has had eye surgery I think like twice. He has cataracts and his eyes are sensitive to the sun now. Thats why they approved him to wear a football helment visor. As long as pot roast can see, he can play. Well see what he say the damage is.

But I do agree with you on about the draft. There arent many "elite" wr's in the draft, but there are quite a view that would be quite an upgrade from what we have now.

[comncense]

Emergency eye surgery doesn't sound good, especially if he loses sight in that eye.  Does he continue to play if blindness threatens?

As for the draft, I agree with trading back and amassing some more picks.  I think Alshon Jeffery will be a great receiver.  He goes and gets the ball.   If they can trade back and get him with additional picks this would be best plan of action.   

If they draft @ 7 I would rather them take Floyd over Claiborne.  Floyd is moving up on some boards and if Blackmon and Floyd are gone, trading out becomes even more important.  Wasting 7 on another Harvey or Groves type is probably what Gene Gene will do, but a guy can hope right?

Well of course if he loses sight in his eye then thats different. If he had surgery on it to me thats an indication the problem could be corrected. Dejay Karim has had eye surgery I think like twice. He has cataracts and his eyes are sensitive to the sun now. Thats why they approved him to wear a football helment visor. As long as pot roast can see, he can play. Well see what he say the damage is.

But I do agree with you on about the draft. There arent many "elite" wr's in the draft, but there are quite a view that would be quite an upgrade from what we have now.

Action News is reporting that it's going to be a lengthy recover for Pot Roast. I don't think you can compare Deji's situation with getting cracked in the face with a bottle. Whatever the case, hopefully the dude is ok. Sucks that it happens in a contract year for him that he seemed to be taking serious by keeping his weight 'down' on top of that we let Leger Douzable go to the Titans.

I know you can't expect these young guys to not go out to clubs, but even I know there's certain clubs and certain nights to avoid places. There's a bunch of jealous people that will be at clubs that will be over the top about things just because you're an athlete that makes way more money than they do.

[duvaldude08]

Emergency eye surgery doesn't sound good, especially if he loses sight in that eye.  Does he continue to play if blindness threatens?

As for the draft, I agree with trading back and amassing some more picks.  I think Alshon Jeffery will be a great receiver.  He goes and gets the ball.   If they can trade back and get him with additional picks this would be best plan of action.   

If they draft @ 7 I would rather them take Floyd over Claiborne.  Floyd is moving up on some boards and if Blackmon and Floyd are gone, trading out becomes even more important.  Wasting 7 on another Harvey or Groves type is probably what Gene Gene will do, but a guy can hope right?

Well of course if he loses sight in his eye then thats different. If he had surgery on it to me thats an indication the problem could be corrected. Dejay Karim has had eye surgery I think like twice. He has cataracts and his eyes are sensitive to the sun now. Thats why they approved him to wear a football helment visor. As long as pot roast can see, he can play. Well see what he say the damage is.

But I do agree with you on about the draft. There arent many "elite" wr's in the draft, but there are quite a view that would be quite an upgrade from what we have now.

Action News is reporting that it's going to be a lengthy recover for Pot Roast. I don't think you can compare Deji's situation with getting cracked in the face with a bottle. Whatever the case, hopefully the dude is ok. Sucks that it happens in a contract year for him that he seemed to be taking serious by keeping his weight 'down' on top of that we let Leger Douzable go to the Titans.

I know you can't expect these young guys to not go out to clubs, but even I know there's certain clubs and certain nights to avoid places. There's a bunch of jealous people that will be at clubs that will be over the top about things just because you're an athlete that makes way more money than they do.

They still havent said what "lengthy" means. Even if its 6 months, he'd still be ready for the season. As far as a replacement, CJ mosely was actually very good also. When CJ was in for pot roast, its like pot roast was still there. He's pretty good.

[I-10east]

Haven't young athletes ever heard of house parties with people they know, instead of being around a bunch of thugged out hooligans? I never understood that. Potroast being at that club is clearly not a situation like any one of us 'Joe Blows' can (sometimes) go to a club, blend in, and stay under the radar, these athletes often are harassed due to these envious haters, just like you said Comn. It's usually a lil' 'reckless zone' period with many people from childhood to about thirty, then after that, there's something that's called 'maturity' that usually kicks in. You'd think that some sense will kick in with these players, esp on a team that had to deal with the tragic Richard Collier situation.

[duvaldude08]

Haven't young athletes ever heard of house parties with people they know, instead of being around a bunch of thugged out hooligans? I never understood that. Potroast being at that club is clearly not a situation like any one of us 'Joe Blows' can (sometimes) go to a club, blend in, and stay under the radar, these athletes often are harassed due to these envious haters, just like you said Comn. It's usually a lil' 'reckless zone' period with many people from childhood to about thirty, then after that, there's something that's called 'maturity' that usually kicks in. You'd think that some sense will kick in with these players, esp on a team that had to deal with the tragic Richard Collier situation.

I know its hard because they wanna feel normal, but there are certain places they just cant go. Pure is definately not a "ghetto" club, but when your pretty much famous in a sense you can not blend in with everyone. You just cant. I just hope he gets better and is ready for the season in September. We will see what comes out tomorrow.

[comncense]

Pure is pretty ummm 'ghetto' on Saturday nights. I hate to use that term but, yeah. Totally different crowd that any other nights of the week. Most of the times I see Jags players out they are in groups, which is probably smart. Mostly I see them at Blackfinn or Suite, which are both more on the upscale side of things.

I was listening to SFR this morning and the story is that one of Pot Roast's friends was getting jumped and Pot Roast jumped in to try to help and someone hit him with a bottle which cut the inside of his eye. So he had surgery yesterday and will have a doctor's appointment sometime today. Dan Hicken said 4 months was very optimistic. Really you have no idea of knowing how things will turn out. It could be ok and he's back before the start of the season, but when you're talking about shards of glass and the eye, there's also the potential of being blinded. Hopefully that's not the case.

Back to the topic of the post... SFR also was saying that Michael Floyd was on the radio this weekend and said that he has been contacted to have a personal workout and interview with 11 teams that are all in the top 15 picks. The Jaguars aren't one of those teams...

[duvaldude08]

Pure is pretty ummm 'ghetto' on Saturday nights. I hate to use that term but, yeah. Totally different crowd that any other nights of the week. Most of the times I see Jags players out they are in groups, which is probably smart. Mostly I see them at Blackfinn or Suite, which are both more on the upscale side of things.

I was listening to SFR this morning and the story is that one of Pot Roast's friends was getting jumped and Pot Roast jumped in to try to help and someone hit him with a bottle which cut the inside of his eye. So he had surgery yesterday and will have a doctor's appointment sometime today. Dan Hicken said 4 months was very optimistic. Really you have no idea of knowing how things will turn out. It could be ok and he's back before the start of the season, but when you're talking about shards of glass and the eye, there's also the potential of being blinded. Hopefully that's not the case.

Back to the topic of the post... SFR also was saying that Michael Floyd was on the radio this weekend and said that he has been contacted to have a personal workout and interview with 11 teams that are all in the top 15 picks. The Jaguars aren't one of those teams...

Yeah I read that too. Honestly when it comes to the draft, I just let things happen like they will happen. Every year you expect the team to do one thing, and the do the complete opposite. Heck when we drafted Gabbert I was floored. So I dont put anything pass them.

[mtraininjax]

Everyone says that Character counts with this team, maybe Knighton should have thought about where he was and what he was doing. Certainly the fact that you are a starting NFL lineman coming up to Summer Training Camp should have been on his mind, even if his friend was there getting beat up. Execution of poor judgement.

Why even go to someplace that could present a problem? No bouncers there to break up the fight? Shoulda, Coulda Woulda, for sure all day long and night. So water under the bridge, but could be used as a lesson to all the new players, to stay away from trouble, cause you it will find you as people want to measure themselves against you.

I'd say we have a definite need at a DT or DE, not an OLB as others have suggested. If we cannot put more pressure on the QB, our DB will be shredded again this year. We only had 31 sacks last year, 25th in the league.

[I-10east]

Everyone says that Character counts with this team, maybe Knighton should have thought about where he was and what he was doing. Certainly the fact that you are a starting NFL lineman coming up to Summer Training Camp should have been on his mind, even if his friend was there getting beat up. Execution of poor judgement.

While I agree that him being there was pretty much poor judgement, I totally disagree with anything to suggest that he should have not done anything to help his friend; A loss of a friendship is at stake here. I wouldn't wanna be that guy that's thinking retrospectively damn, I should have helped my friend.

[mtraininjax]

I wouldn't wanna be that guy that's thinking retrospectively damn, I should have helped my friend.

At the sacrifice of the team. Could go either way here. You can always buy more friends, but if you let down your teammates.....

[Keith-N-Jax]

Back to the Draft, the topic of this thread.

[copperfiend]

Here is how I would rank the top four guys by likelihood we draft them (assuming we stay at 7):

1. Melvin Ingram
2. Michael Floyd
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Morris Claiborne

I think Ingram is the guy if they stay at 7. He is likely to be there, has zero characters and plays a position of great need.

Floyd and Blackmon I will put together. There is a good chance both guys will be there. Both have DUI arrests in the past. And both are far from perfect prospects. They are not Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green or Andre Johnson type can't miss prospects. And this appears to be a deep draft at WR. I could see the team passing on the position in the first round and selecting at least two in the next two or three rounds.

Claiborne probably won't be there because I don't see Tampa and St Louis passing on him. But if he is, probably too good to pass up.

[duvaldude08]

Here is how I would rank the top four guys by likelihood we draft them (assuming we stay at 7):

1. Melvin Ingram
2. Michael Floyd
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Morris Claiborne

I think Ingram is the guy if they stay at 7. He is likely to be there, has zero characters and plays a position of great need.

Floyd and Blackmon I will put together. There is a good chance both guys will be there. Both have DUI arrests in the past. And both are far from perfect prospects. They are not Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green or Andre Johnson type can't miss prospects. And this appears to be a deep draft at WR. I could see the team passing on the position in the first round and selecting at least two in the next two or three rounds.

Claiborne probably won't be there because I don't see Tampa and St Louis passing on him. But if he is, probably too good to pass up.

I honest would be upset if we drafted a corner. That is not a pressing need right now. We got some insurance for Mathis with Aaron Ross. IMO that should do it for now. We need WR's and DE's. If we went CB in the first round I would actually be upset. I think CB should be focused on next off season. ( at that point will have a clear understanding where mathis is from a performance standpoint.)

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

If you learned anything last year, DD, you should have learned that you can't have too many players at a position.

33? people on IR, and how many of them were corners.

We draft BAP, not need.

[copperfiend]

Here is how I would rank the top four guys by likelihood we draft them (assuming we stay at 7):

1. Melvin Ingram
2. Michael Floyd
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Morris Claiborne

I think Ingram is the guy if they stay at 7. He is likely to be there, has zero characters and plays a position of great need.

Floyd and Blackmon I will put together. There is a good chance both guys will be there. Both have DUI arrests in the past. And both are far from perfect prospects. They are not Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green or Andre Johnson type can't miss prospects. And this appears to be a deep draft at WR. I could see the team passing on the position in the first round and selecting at least two in the next two or three rounds.

Claiborne probably won't be there because I don't see Tampa and St Louis passing on him. But if he is, probably too good to pass up.

I honest would be upset if we drafted a corner. That is not a pressing need right now. We got some insurance for Mathis with Aaron Ross. IMO that should do it for now. We need WR's and DE's. If we went CB in the first round I would actually be upset. I think CB should be focused on next off season. ( at that point will have a clear understanding where mathis is from a performance standpoint.)

Mathis and Cox are both going into the final years of their contracts. And Claiborne is considered by many to be an elite prospect. I don't think he will fall past Tampa but if he is there at 7, he will be difficult to pass up.