Jags Draft

[comncense]

I honestly don't see the Rams passing on Justin Blackmon. The Rams have ZERO threats at WR and already have a franchise QB. I think they will draft a offensive weapon for him. Lloyd was their best WR and they let him go to the Pats. Also keep in mind they had Mike Sims-Walker starting before they cut him and we grabbed him up again.

While I can see us drafting Ingram, we better hope he turns out to be a Dwight Freeney type of player. He's about the same height and build as Freeney and as we all know the main thing Freeney has going for him is his hands and speed. I'd much rather see if we can work Miami's desire to draft Tannehill and trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 2nd round pick and hopefully get Floyd still in the first round.

Ideally we need to leave this draft with at least 3 WR's and hopefully one of them develops into being a great player. Right now we have Mike Thomas, Laurent Robinson, Taylor Price, Chastin West, Cecil Shorts and Jarett Dillard. I would drop Dillard for sure from that group. 3 years and no production but tons of injuries.

[duvaldude08]

Here is how I would rank the top four guys by likelihood we draft them (assuming we stay at 7):

1. Melvin Ingram
2. Michael Floyd
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Morris Claiborne

I think Ingram is the guy if they stay at 7. He is likely to be there, has zero characters and plays a position of great need.

Floyd and Blackmon I will put together. There is a good chance both guys will be there. Both have DUI arrests in the past. And both are far from perfect prospects. They are not Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green or Andre Johnson type can't miss prospects. And this appears to be a deep draft at WR. I could see the team passing on the position in the first round and selecting at least two in the next two or three rounds.

Claiborne probably won't be there because I don't see Tampa and St Louis passing on him. But if he is, probably too good to pass up.

I honest would be upset if we drafted a corner. That is not a pressing need right now. We got some insurance for Mathis with Aaron Ross. IMO that should do it for now. We need WR's and DE's. If we went CB in the first round I would actually be upset. I think CB should be focused on next off season. ( at that point will have a clear understanding where mathis is from a performance standpoint.)

Mathis and Cox are both going into the final years of their contracts. And Claiborne is considered by many to be an elite prospect. I don't think he will fall past Tampa but if he is there at 7, he will be difficult to pass up.

Eh...I would have mixed emotions...

[copperfiend]

I honestly don't see the Rams passing on Justin Blackmon. The Rams have ZERO threats at WR and already have a franchise QB. I think they will draft a offensive weapon for him. Lloyd was their best WR and they let him go to the Pats. Also keep in mind they had Mike Sims-Walker starting before they cut him and we grabbed him up again.

While I can see us drafting Ingram, we better hope he turns out to be a Dwight Freeney type of player. He's about the same height and build as Freeney and as we all know the main thing Freeney has going for him is his hands and speed. I'd much rather see if we can work Miami's desire to draft Tannehill and trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 2nd round pick and hopefully get Floyd still in the first round.

Ideally we need to leave this draft with at least 3 WR's and hopefully one of them develops into being a great player. Right now we have Mike Thomas, Laurent Robinson, Taylor Price, Chastin West, Cecil Shorts and Jarett Dillard. I would drop Dillard for sure from that group. 3 years and no production but tons of injuries.

I think our receiving group will be Robinson, Thomas, Shorts and any of combination of draft picks, guys you mentioned above or veterans made available during the summer. There seems to be good value in this draft at receiver. Brian Quick is an interesting player.

[duvaldude08]

I honestly don't see the Rams passing on Justin Blackmon. The Rams have ZERO threats at WR and already have a franchise QB. I think they will draft a offensive weapon for him. Lloyd was their best WR and they let him go to the Pats. Also keep in mind they had Mike Sims-Walker starting before they cut him and we grabbed him up again.

While I can see us drafting Ingram, we better hope he turns out to be a Dwight Freeney type of player. He's about the same height and build as Freeney and as we all know the main thing Freeney has going for him is his hands and speed. I'd much rather see if we can work Miami's desire to draft Tannehill and trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 2nd round pick and hopefully get Floyd still in the first round.

Ideally we need to leave this draft with at least 3 WR's and hopefully one of them develops into being a great player. Right now we have Mike Thomas, Laurent Robinson, Taylor Price, Chastin West, Cecil Shorts and Jarett Dillard. I would drop Dillard for sure from that group. 3 years and no production but tons of injuries.

Im not sure about Dillard. Its hard to say just drop him. Honestly last year was h is actual "rookie" season. As you mentioned, he was injuried before hand. From what I seen last season he was acutally decent. Made some rookie mistakes for sure, but I expected being he had not played much during his career because of injuries. But somebody will probably go, and it might be him

[mtraininjax]

Blackmon would sell more tickets too for the Rams, since he's from OSU. Bradford would love having him as a target. I don't see the Jags overpaying for a weak WR draft class. Mularkey is going to want to develop someone and he has time on his side with his new contract.

[Keith-N-Jax]

^^ Yes I agree, they have Robinson, West, Robiskie,Shorts, and Dillard. I think Jag nation is going to be shocked when the Jags don't draft a reciever from this class. I could be wrong but I think GS wants to see if some of the players they have will emerge this season. BG will have a full camp to work with these wr's, but we will see soon enough.

[comncense]

^ Yeah that's what scares me. I think Gene wants try to prove people wrong by hanging on to all of these bums that he drafted that haven't done crap since he drafted them. 3 years, no production and you haven't broken into the lineup... Hit the bricks and give someone else a chance. Honestly I'd like to see us give Chastin West a chance to develop if not only for the reason we didn't originally draft him, Green Bay did.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that we pick 8th in the 2nd round and 7th again in the 3rd.  While there may not be any 'elite' WRs, there's still depth at the position as far as quality players - more than just Blackmon and Floyd. 

With Potroast's injury this weekend, I think that may have shaken up the draft board a little.  Not much, but it definitely puts a DT as a possibility to get drafted, probably not in round one because no one seems to be worth the 7th pick, but definitely in the 2nd or third.

I still think we take the best available at 7, and it's not going to be a WR. 

[I-10east]

I don't understand this 'best player available' philosophy; If a team (hypothetically) is loaded at one position, say at receiver, and the best overall player is a WR, but your team desperately needs a CB, and can get the best corner in the draft; So that's supposed to automatically be a no-brainer, just because the WR falls into the BAP category? Different strokes for different folks.

IMO Ingram is more of exactly what his college position is, a LB, than a DE; On Jaguars this Weekend, they did a lil' breakdown of Ingram, and said that he has pretty short arms (like a T-Rex)  for a bonafided strip the ball kind of DE. We are pretty decent at corner, so that's not a very pressing need. I really hope that we don't pass up on Floyd, but this 'Clean Gene' mentality crap is getting me kinda worried.   

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

When you grade these players, you give them an overall rank, and a draft slotting position - the ideal slot in the draft that these guys become available for a situation that your needs actually match the BAP on the board.

Let's say when picking at #7, Matt Kalil is still available, and we had given him a near perfect grade and have him slotted in the 3-5 range.  Claiborn is off the board, but we had him with a similar grade.  Blackmon and Floyd are still available, the highest rated WRs on our board, but we have them slotted 12-18.  Ingram is available, as is Coples, but we have given them a lower grade than Blackmon & Floyd and have them slotted in the same positions:  12-18.  Richardson, at this point, is our highest rated player, talent wise, that's still left, but due to the increasingly lack of purpose for an RB and their short life span, he's actually slotted in the 21-25 range.

Based on this, if we have to pick at #7, we take Kalil - the highest graded player, slotted in our range.   But we don't necessarily have a NEED at OT, so we make an attempt to trade back into the 12-18 range - that's where our greatest need is and where we feel we have the best players ranked.  This is where it's really helpful to have a firm grasp on the needs and philosophies of the other teams.  We would look for a trading partner to move up to 7 from the 12-18 range in an attempt to match value & need.

If we can't move back in a position to take our BAPs in the 12-18 range, we take the one available to us at #7 - in my scenario, Kalil.

That's how we ended up with Gabbert last year.  We had a need for QB and I know we had a really high grade on him (prior to the combine most 'professional analysts' had him ranked #1 overall) and, I assume, we had slotted him in the 6-8 range.  When he was still available at 10, we made a move with WAS to go and get him.  He filled a need.  He was the highest rated guy on the board.  He had more value because of the position we chose him in.   Boom.  We make the move.

[copperfiend]

^^ Yes I agree, they have Robinson, West, Robiskie,Shorts, and Dillard. I think Jag nation is going to be shocked when the Jags don't draft a reciever from this class. I could be wrong but I think GS wants to see if some of the players they have will emerge this season. BG will have a full camp to work with these wr's, but we will see soon enough.

I would be stunned if they don't take a WR. I honestly think they'll take two or three.

[Tacachale]

I don't doubt they'll get receivers; I tend to doubt that they'll take one in the first round.