EverBank Field and SMG Management Contract

[tufsu1]

The structural problems were the fault of the contractors, and they're the ones fixing it. And regardless, it doesn't mean that SMG is the best bid for the buck.

Doggone HOK Sport (architects). And to think, alot of MJers rag on KBJ, which is atleast safe! It's kinda weird because the Baseball Grounds of Jacksonville (builted by Populous, the successor to HOK), and Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena (built by HOK) were both built in 2003. Apparently Populous did a major overhaul, because I don't hear about the Baseball Grounds falling apart.

umm...you do understand that architects design buildings, not construct them, right?

[mtraininjax]

as did First Baptist (on the grounds of rock music being evil).

I did not see them well represented the last time AC/DC came to town at the Arena, but it could have been because I was inside banging my head with the evil music.

[Tacachale]

The structural problems were the fault of the contractors, and they're the ones fixing it. And regardless, it doesn't mean that SMG is the best bid for the buck.

Doggone HOK Sport (architects). And to think, alot of MJers rag on KBJ, which is atleast safe! It's kinda weird because the Baseball Grounds of Jacksonville (builted by Populous, the successor to HOK), and Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena (built by HOK) were both built in 2003. Apparently Populous did a major overhaul, because I don't hear about the Baseball Grounds falling apart.

umm...you do understand that architects design buildings, not construct them, right?

Right. The issue was with the contractors who actually built the thing, a joint venture led by Turner Construction. They're the ones having to repair it at their cost now.

[mtraininjax]

Right. The issue was with the contractors who actually built the thing, a joint venture led by Turner Construction. They're the ones having to repair it at their cost now.

With the City right back there again, managing the repairs. 

[SunKing]

If you are the largest sports management company, who do you compete with who can match the bid specs?

Exactly. SMG is pretty much a monopoly although it runs just five NFL stadiums (JAX, NO, OAK, HOU, and CHI); The rest of the NFL stadiums are pretty much ran by their city's, or some kinda local sports commission. So the City of Jacksonville is pretty much the only logical possibility. 

Sort of, the top ten NFL stadiums in attendance were all managed by...the NFL team or a commission on behalf of the team/s as is the case with Meadowlands (Jets and Giants).  My problem is that if the city or Jaguars even want SMG or anyone else to manage Everbank Field, fine.  But why hold all other entertainment venues in town hostage?  SMG has NO incentive in their contract to improve the entertainment experience of the venues that they manage.  Case in point according to the NCAA tournament officials, Jacksonville isnt even in the running for tournament games.  Why? because no one has submitted a request to be in the rotation!

[cline]

Case in point according to the NCAA tournament officials, Jacksonville isnt even in the running for tournament games.  Why? because no one has submitted a request to be in the rotation!

Well they've had it here twice with 2010 being the most recent.  They can't have it every year.  But I would expect it to return around 2014 if the past is any indication.

[Anti redneck]

^To be fair it was more than just St. Nicholas residents. Anti-tax groups like the goofy "Citizens for Amphitheater Awareness" also stirred up opposition, as did First Baptist (on the grounds of rock music being evil).

You just put your finger on why I am so anti-First Baptist and why I want them to leave town... at least downtown.

[fsujax]

well, they arent going anwhere so get over it. If anything the church may even get bigger!

[Anti redneck]

They'll leave if there's enough opposition to them being here. There's been enough kooky protests and oppositions to things here as it is already, protesting and opposing the FBC and forcing them to go somewhere else would actually make sense. Let them know, "We don't want them here!"

[cline]

well, they arent going anwhere so get over it. If anything the church may even get bigger!

More lost downtown property tax revenue?  Awesome.

[Tacachale]

They'll leave if there's enough opposition to them being here. There's been enough kooky protests and oppositions to things here as it is already, protesting and opposing the FBC and forcing them to go somewhere else would actually make sense. Let them know, "We don't want them here!"

::)That presupposes that "we" don't want them there.

Personally, I'm pleased that one of the city's oldest churches is still active downtown, and brings thousands of people to the area twice a week.

I shouldn't have said that "First Baptist" was against the amphitheater. The senior pastors were against it, but clearly not all the congregation speaks with one voice.

I suppose it's easier to blame everything on First Baptist than to think critically.

[SunKing]

Case in point according to the NCAA tournament officials, Jacksonville isnt even in the running for tournament games.  Why? because no one has submitted a request to be in the rotation!

Well they've had it here twice with 2010 being the most recent.  They can't have it every year.  But I would expect it to return around 2014 if the past is any indication.

They didnt bid for 2014 so it would be 2015 at the earliest ASSUMING someone makes a bid.  And it should be every other year for either 1/2 round or 3/4 round.  Greensboro, Dayton, Indy, Pittsburgh all have it minimum every other year.  the point is not whether or not Jacksonville gets it every year but at least make the effort.  That is what a promoter is hired to do but there is NO incentive to do so.

[Anti redneck]

well, they arent going anwhere so get over it. If anything the church may even get bigger!

More lost downtown property tax revenue?  Awesome.

Sounds glamours, doesn't it?

[I-10east]

umm...you do understand that architects design buildings, not construct them, right?

Yeah my fault. Turner Construction are responsible. I knew what I said didn't sound right, and it was gonna bite me at the end. LOL

[I-10east]

Sort of, the top ten NFL stadiums in attendance were all managed by...the NFL team or a commission on behalf of the team/s as is the case with Meadowlands (Jets and Giants).

Yeah, I corrected myself on the post afterwards. I need to start deleting erroneous posts, because naturally, it will always be that one post that gets spotlighted.