Republicans Cut Pay for Servers and Bartenders

Started by FayeforCure, February 17, 2012, 01:05:21 PM

BridgeTroll

It was a hoax Stephen...

QuoteRestaurant Calls Photo Of Banker’s 1 Percent Tip, ‘Get A Real Job’ Message A Hoax

NEWPORT BEACH (CBS) â€" A wealthy banker set off public outrage after he allegedly followed up a $133 meal by leaving his waitress a one percent tip and a personal tip â€" “Get a real job”. But the restaurant where it supposedly happened said it is all a hoax.

According to Huffington Post, CNN and several other news sites, a person claiming to be an employee of the “wealthy” banker took a photo of the receipt and posted it on a blog, “Future Ex-Banker”. The blogger paired the photo with their own caption:

“Mention the ’99 percent’ in my boss’ presence and feel his wrath. So proudly does he wear his 1 percent badge of honor that he tips exactly 1 percent every time he feels the server doesn’t sufficiently bow down to his Holiness. Oh, and he always makes sure to include a ‘tip’ of his own.”

The blogger surmised that the post would probably mean losing his or her job. Not surprisingly, soon after the blog started getting a lot of public attention it was taken down.

The post set off a hailstorm of online comments that touched on the 1% vs. 99% class warfare embodied by the Occupy movement.

The Huffington Post posted a correction to their story, indicating that the restaurant called the blog’s photo “altered and exaggerated”.

The restaurant told CBS2/KCAL9 that they have been receiving hundreds of phone calls and e-mails from people outraged over the reported story. They have confirmed that the receipt was changed and that the original receipt lists the meal as just over $30, with a 20 percent tip and no message aimed at the waitress.

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Kaiser Soze


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: FayeforCure on February 17, 2012, 01:15:22 PM
Most young servers and bartender actually ARE in school, but now have to drop out of school because their pay will no longer be enough--------> hence the dumbing down of America

I really feel sorry for my daughter who is a server while she works on becoming a lawyer.

Stephen, this is Faye's point.

My point is that WE are the ones who pay servers salaries - their hourly wages are inconsequential.  Who cares about the asshat in the picture, whether it's real or fake, take care of what you can take care of.
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Dog Walker

Stephen, you have it backwards.  People with wealth tend to become arrogant and feel privileged.    ;D
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Dog Walker

+1!  I guess you have to be really wealthy to be able to hire domestics these days.
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BridgeTroll

Quote from: Dog Walker on March 01, 2012, 05:33:21 PM
Stephen, you have it backwards.  People with wealth tend to become arrogant and feel privileged.    ;D

Really?  The ones that I know are humble and generous.  "Arrogant and privileged" sounds like a generality and stereotype to be used by Faye... not you...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

FayeforCure

I find it soooo hilarious that the same people who vehemently defend CEO pay, will let the servers starve........ie be reduced to beggars.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: FayeforCure on March 02, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
I find it soooo hilarious that the same people who vehemently defend CEO pay, will let the servers starve........ie be reduced to beggars.

They only starve if you don't do your part.
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KenFSU

Quote from: FayeforCure on March 02, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
I find it soooo hilarious that the same people who vehemently defend CEO pay, will let the servers starve........ie be reduced to beggars.

First of all, you're right.

Hemming Park would be a much better, safer place without all those servers.

Secondly, a CEO bears the responsibility of an entire company on his back. The Applebee's CEO, just as an example, is ultimately reponsible for 30,000 employees. He's also responsible for appeasing the investors who finance said company, allowing said 30,000 employees to draw a paycheck every two weeks. He has worked his butt off to get where he is, has invested heavily in education and training, and obviously has a tremendous amount of business acumen and knowledge to land where he has landed.

Without a good CEO (and CFO), a company is doomed.

You can't equate the job (and subsequently the pay) that a CEO does with that of a high school dropout (or college student) walking around with a Diet Coke pitcher and asking if the diner would like french fries or slaw.

The Applebee's CEO made approximately 2.2 million dollars last year.

A full time server at Applebees, making $10 an hour as the bill requires, would earn around $21,000 a year annually.

So the CEO earns approximately 100 times more than the server.

Sounds about right to me.

Remove 100 servers from the company, no one notices.

Remove the CEO position, and you have no Applebees.

FayeforCure

Quote from: KenFSU on March 02, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
The Applebee's CEO made approximately 2.2 million dollars last year.

A full time server at Applebees, making $10 an hour as the bill requires, would earn around $21,000 a year annually.

So the CEO earns approximately 100 times more than the server.

Sounds about right to me.

Remove 100 servers from the company, no one notices.

Remove the CEO position, and you have no Applebees.

Wow, what a distorted view. BTW what happened to CEOs making about 50 times what the average worker made? That's how it used to be.

Replacing one person is a whole lot easier than replacing 100 servers. Losing 100 servers would be immediately felt by the customers, and it would ruin Applebees reputation.

There are a lot of Stephanie Kopelousos' running around, who will work any job for $177,000.

Applebees would still be around, just like Florida's Dept of Transportation is still around.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood

Kaiser Soze

Quote from: FayeforCure on March 02, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 02, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
The Applebee's CEO made approximately 2.2 million dollars last year.

A full time server at Applebees, making $10 an hour as the bill requires, would earn around $21,000 a year annually.

So the CEO earns approximately 100 times more than the server.

Sounds about right to me.

Remove 100 servers from the company, no one notices.

Remove the CEO position, and you have no Applebees.

Wow, what a distorted view. BTW what happened to CEOs making about 50 times what the average worker made? That's how it used to be.

Replacing one person is a whole lot easier than replacing 100 servers. Losing 100 servers would be immediately felt by the customers, and it would ruin Applebees reputation.

There are a lot of Stephanie Kopelousos' running around, who will work any job for $177,000.

Applebees would still be around, just like Florida's Dept of Transportation is still around.
Faye's entire statement is laughable.

KenFSU

Quote from: FayeforCure on March 02, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 02, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
Applebees would still be around, just like Florida's Dept of Transportation is still around.

If the Florida Dept of Transportation was a private business, it would have been gone bankrupt years ago.

FayeforCure

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Quote from: KenFSU on March 02, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: FayeforCure on March 02, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 02, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
Applebees would still be around, just like Florida's Dept of Transportation is still around.

If the Florida Dept of Transportation was a private business, it would have been gone bankrupt years ago.

Not necessarily..........many private busineses also survive terrible CEOs, but they never survive terrible customer service (by cutting 100 waiters). In Fact many private companies have to not only absorb losses created by these terrible CEOs, they also have to absorb the cost of the golden parachutes given to these terrible CEOs, who are then rehired by the next "private" or Government outfit..
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood

mtraininjax

Quotethey also have to absorb the cost of the golden parachutes given to these terrible CEOs

We are talking about the local restaurant business, right?   :o

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Kaiser Soze

I find Faye very difficult to respond to as her argument seems to be all over the place.