Main Street loses another ....

sheclown · February 09, 2012, 06:38:08 PM

16th Street

sheclown · February 10, 2012, 06:33:59 AM

We need a commercial mothball ordinance... something that would save the commercial buildings on Main Street and downtown. It could be designed differently than residential, but would help so much with the blight.

thelakelander · February 10, 2012, 06:40:11 AM

It wouldn't hurt. If there's one thing I've noticed about historic preservation in this town is that commercial and industrial buildings aren't as valued as residential historic stock. It's weird because thousands of people's lives are probably linked to many of these larger forgotten structures.

Noone · February 10, 2012, 07:23:34 AM

I'm in shock.

The total wipeout of a beautiful two story concrete duplex next to the banks of Hogans Creek at Washington and Beaver St. Perfectly legal.

The recent opening on McCoys Creek at Stonewall and Chelsea St. Has one MJ'er done a site inspection?

Right now go and look at Hogans Creek and the removal of that pedestrian overpass next to Bay St. I'm in shock about that. Whats the plan? Not in Waterways! Does anybody care?

Its a good thing they have two pieces of equipment there! Love the two tone paint job and I'm just looking at that one picture and just thinking of the potential of that structure. I'll try and go by today.

Sheclown would you like to go for a kayak paddle and I'll share with you why I feel I'll be telling the world

DON'T VISIT JACKSONVILLE

As a bonus if you have a fishing license and I do we can fish under the brand new no fishing signs DOWNTOWN!

dougskiles · February 10, 2012, 08:53:00 AM

What is more concerning to me than the loss of this building, is what they might replace it with. Let's hope it isn't set back from the road with parking along the front, typical of most suburban strip centers.

I agree that some kind of commercial/industrical preservation effort needs to occur. But, looking at this building, would it necessarily qualify?

peestandingup · February 10, 2012, 08:59:01 AM

Yeah, what was wrong with that building?? It certainly didn't look like it was falling down or being eaten by termites. It was a sturdy brick shell after all.

avs · February 10, 2012, 09:00:45 AM

Are all of the commercial corridors in the historic district? Can you write a mothballing ordinance on non-historic structures?

fsujax · February 10, 2012, 09:02:22 AM

I am just glad they didn't tear down Fred Cotton's BBQ!

thelakelander · February 10, 2012, 09:06:52 AM

Quote from: dougskiles on February 10, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
What is more concerning to me than the loss of this building, is what they might replace it with. Let's hope it isn't set back from the road with parking along the front, typical of most suburban strip centers.

I agree that some kind of commercial/industrical preservation effort needs to occur. But, looking at this building, would it necessarily qualify?

It was constructed in 1947, so it's more than 50 years old. I own two undeveloped lots directly behind this building on the other side of the alley. This building's plot of land is only 100' x 100' and the parcels on either end, fronting Main, are owned by different entities. Without purchasing more property, anything on this site would have to be constructed in some sort of urban format.

thelakelander · February 10, 2012, 09:07:59 AM

Quote from: avs on February 10, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
Are all of the commercial corridors in the historic district?

No. The majority of the commerical corridor is excluded from the historic district and everything north of the railroad tracks is outside of the official historic district.

thelakelander · February 10, 2012, 09:10:07 AM

Quote from: fsujax on February 10, 2012, 09:02:22 AM
I am just glad they didn't tear down Fred Cotton's BBQ!

With that building gone, it probably makes it easier to package Cottons (they've been for sale off and own the past couple of years) with this parcel. Package the parcels and you could be looking at something similar to the Family Dollar across the street.

Noone · February 10, 2012, 10:13:43 AM

Cha Ching!

Noone · February 10, 2012, 07:54:14 PM

Quote from: fsujax on February 10, 2012, 09:02:22 AM
I am just glad they didn't tear down Fred Cotton's BBQ!

I went by today and the building is coming down fast. I went in to Cotton's and got some BBQ to go. They were sad to see it go. Didn't know what the plan was for the property.

sheclown · February 11, 2012, 07:43:51 AM

Quote from: thelakelander on February 10, 2012, 06:40:11 AM
It wouldn't hurt. If there's one thing I've noticed about historic preservation in this town is that commercial and industrial buildings aren't as valued as residential historic stock. It's weird because thousands of people's lives are probably linked to many of these larger forgotten structures.

I believe historic commercial structures in the historic districts are covered by the mothball ordinance.

sheclown · February 11, 2012, 07:45:21 AM

Quote from: Noone on February 10, 2012, 07:23:34 AM
I'm in shock.

The total wipeout of a beautiful two story concrete duplex next to the banks of Hogans Creek at Washington and Beaver St. Perfectly legal.

The recent opening on McCoys Creek at Stonewall and Chelsea St. Has one MJ'er done a site inspection?

Right now go and look at Hogans Creek and the removal of that pedestrian overpass next to Bay St. I'm in shock about that. Whats the plan? Not in Waterways! Does anybody care?

Its a good thing they have two pieces of equipment there! Love the two tone paint job and I'm just looking at that one picture and just thinking of the potential of that structure. I'll try and go by today.

Sheclown would you like to go for a kayak paddle and I'll share with you why I feel I'll be telling the world

DON'T VISIT JACKSONVILLE

As a bonus if you have a fishing license and I do we can fish under the brand new no fishing signs DOWNTOWN!

I'd love to. I'll bring my camera.