planned streetcar restoration

[ricker]

Before the rug was yanked out from underneath us  all_

Enlighten me and tell us all please what were the planned routes??
I have read here somewhere on MJ that for the westside, a streetcar line was planned for Cassat Avenue.

How would the tracks have made their way from downtown to cassat avenue??

It has been my understanding from what I have gathered here and elsewhere that  freight tracks and streetcar tracks do not intersect well.

I am anxious to learn more!  thanks for whoever can post with some knowledgeable insight!

[fsujax]

JTA did a streetcar study that can be found at this link. I do not remember seeing anything for Cassat Ave.

http://www.jtafla.com/JTAFuturePlans/Streetcars/Default.aspx?page=Pre-Feasibility Study&pid=38

[ricker]

Hi, thank you for your response but that link looks broken do you have any other information??

[Kiva]

The link is:
http://www.jtafla.com/JTAFuturePlans/Streetcars/default.aspx?page=Pre-Feasibility%20Study&pid=38&more=17

[thelakelander]

I've never heard about streetcar tracks being extended down Cassat Avenue.  However, when Murray Hill was developed, right of way was set aside on Edgewood to extend a line from the First Block, where it terminated, deeper into the neighborhood.  That's the reason Edgewood is as wide as it is today.

[ricker]

Like Herschel,  and St.Johns.
While I have stared longingly at many visuals posted here, I also remember a thread which discussed where a streetcar might travel one day more deeply into the westside.
Along with Mr.Mann's suggestion to extend the Riverside "trolley " (a/k/a potato chip truck lol)  route to include Fairfax and Roosevelt square as the southern anchor, I remember a comment (which I cannot find) stating that Post St would/could be used for actual streetcar.??

I understand that the old streetcar route through Avondale never reached the western area of the McIntosh Grant, but now that we have the Blanding flyover, wouldn't Park St be a viable route to reach a possible transfer station to BRT in Cedar Hills and simultaneously stimulate the aging strip center where there's a JSO substation, tax + drivers license office paired sadly with a number of vacancies at Wilson Blvd.??

The Blanding/Park connection seems the only way to avoid the freight tracks AND serve the masses [ of the southwest in Duval ]
I mention cassat avenue s r 111 with thoughts of BRT Connecting north shore to lake shore and panama park to hyde park.

I just feel like streetcar should make it from our urban center out at least to our old Perimeter around town. sr111.

(ALSO, Sort of off topic as I hijack the thread I created,
Why in the world is the hospital route { following the blue signs } directing ambulances north on blanding to take a right turn at san juan to cross the train tracks to herschel street!?
Seems to me if you are in an ambulance the situation might be an emergency.
Why wait on a train when a fly over exists to bypass the railway altogether!?)
Bueller bueller Bueller.

Thanks governor scott and LT.gov.Carroll.

THANKS coj for the moratorium on collecting impact fees.

Thanks for making certain that we stay hampered and behind.

Ruefully I wonder if we will see all 46.5 miles of the OUTERBELTWAY built before the first stick of streetcar track is laid.

[thelakelander]

^The streetcar proposal extends to Park & King and acts more as an urban circulator between Riverside and Downtown than it does a rapid transit option to the Westside.  However, commuter rail via the CSX A line is the fixed transit line currently planned to extend between downtown and Clay County.  Complementing that will be some form of BRT down Blanding.

Also, even with the moratorium, I believe you'll see a fixed rail starter in place before all 46.5 miles of the outerbeltway are built.  At this point, I'm still highly skeptical the entire outerbeltway will happen.  I see the failure of phase I (when complete, its not going to generate numbers needed to support itself) as the main reason why the rest of the beltway will struggle to materialize.