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[The_Choose_1]

I have a friend that this year he decided not to renew his season tickets to the Jacksonville Jaguars. He would spend$140.00 for two tickets. $30.00 for parking. Food & Drink cost for two about $100.00 dollars. Programs and other misc things about $40.00 dollars. About $310.00 a game.

Now he takes the city bus on game day from mandarin for $12.00 dollars and walks around the stadium for a ticket getting one from the ticket sellers for $10.00 most times after the game has started because ten dollars is better then that seller throwing it away. My Friend eats a good meal before he goes to the game. So he still gets drinks & a snack and maybe a program he may spend only $40.00. His new total to watch a Jaguar game is around $62.00. A savings of $258.00 dollars. 

[copperfiend]

I'm a Jag homer and all, but I'm also a football realist. Is it me or barring some unforeseen circumstances, the Super Bowl is destined to be New England vs Carolina or Arizona? There's tons of subpar/average football teams this year; I never remembered anything like this.

It would not surprise me if a team like Seattle or Pittsburgh got hot late in the year and made a Super Bowl run.

[David]

The Colts pulled off something I wish the Jags would learn how to do, a 4th quarter comeback!

The last two Jags games/wins (BAL & TEN) were fourth quarter comebacks.

At the time I posted this (November 4th) The Jags hadn't pulled that off in a LONG time it seemed... We only had two wins at that point. And the Bills win didn't feel like a come from behind win to me, considering we blew a 20 something point lead.

Before the Chargers loss yesterday, I definitely started rooting against the Colts and Texans but alas they're doing well. When we're in the bottom of the division I tend to go for other AFC south teams if there's no chance of us making it. Even with the Jags at 4-7 though, i'm hoping someone can take the others down a few times and we can catch up. 

On the bright side,  I put the Pats/Broncos score on my coworker's monitors this morning  in big RED 300 point font (He's a Pats fan). Hah,  i'm still sore about our loss to them in the playoffs nearly 8 years ago.  Grudge much?

[CCMjax]

I went to the game yesterday and noticed the cabana/fanduelville deck was packed with people that seemed to only half-realize there was an actual game going on right next to them on the field below . . . . meanwhile the actual stadium seating was only about half full.  Need to get some more wins Jags and fill up those seats so they can do a full facelift to the entire stadium . . . badly needed.

[johnnyliar]

I have a friend that this year he decided not to renew his season tickets to the Jacksonville Jaguars. He would spend$140.00 for two tickets. $30.00 for parking. Food & Drink cost for two about $100.00 dollars. Programs and other misc things about $40.00 dollars. About $310.00 a game.

Now he takes the city bus on game day from mandarin for $12.00 dollars and walks around the stadium for a ticket getting one from the ticket sellers for $10.00 most times after the game has started because ten dollars is better then that seller throwing it away. My Friend eats a good meal before he goes to the game. So he still gets drinks & a snack and maybe a program he may spend only $40.00. His new total to watch a Jaguar game is around $62.00. A savings of $258.00 dollars. 

[spuwho]

I have a friend that this year he decided not to renew his season tickets to the Jacksonville Jaguars. He would spend$140.00 for two tickets. $30.00 for parking. Food & Drink cost for two about $100.00 dollars. Programs and other misc things about $40.00 dollars. About $310.00 a game.

Now he takes the city bus on game day from mandarin for $12.00 dollars and walks around the stadium for a ticket getting one from the ticket sellers for $10.00 most times after the game has started because ten dollars is better then that seller throwing it away. My Friend eats a good meal before he goes to the game. So he still gets drinks & a snack and maybe a program he may spend only $40.00. His new total to watch a Jaguar game is around $62.00. A savings of $258.00 dollars. 

Those economics only work as long as the Jaguars maintain status quo.

My cousin in Seattle bought up a bunch of season ticket holders for the Seahawks before they moved to Qwest Field.  They started winning shortly after and now the re-market for his tickets is through the roof.

So when the Jaguars start winning again, that "savings plan" will be non functional.

But I get it. I never pay face for NCAA mens BB at the Arena.

[pierre]

I have a friend that this year he decided not to renew his season tickets to the Jacksonville Jaguars. He would spend$140.00 for two tickets. $30.00 for parking. Food & Drink cost for two about $100.00 dollars. Programs and other misc things about $40.00 dollars. About $310.00 a game.

Now he takes the city bus on game day from mandarin for $12.00 dollars and walks around the stadium for a ticket getting one from the ticket sellers for $10.00 most times after the game has started because ten dollars is better then that seller throwing it away. My Friend eats a good meal before he goes to the game. So he still gets drinks & a snack and maybe a program he may spend only $40.00. His new total to watch a Jaguar game is around $62.00. A savings of $258.00 dollars. 

Those economics only work as long as the Jaguars maintain status quo.

My cousin in Seattle bought up a bunch of season ticket holders for the Seahawks before they moved to Qwest Field.  They started winning shortly after and now the re-market for his tickets is through the roof.

So when the Jaguars start winning again, that "savings plan" will be non functional.

But I get it. I never pay face for NCAA mens BB at the Arena.

Good example. In the 90's, you could get free tickets to a Hawks game because the team was terrible and there were thousands of empty seats every game. Heck, the team almost moved to LA in the mid-90's until Paul Allen bought them from Ken Behring.

[spuwho]

The Onion: St. Louis Rams Threaten To Leave Town Unless Taxpayers Personally Build Stadium With Bare Hands

http://www.theonion.com/article/st-louis-rams-threaten-leave-town-unless-taxpayers-51109

St Louis finds out Kroenke owns vacant land in St Louis suburb (Maryland Heights) under a development LLC. Enough land to build a stadium.

Also it seems Shad Khan isn't the only one having real estate development issues in his namesake NFL town.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2015/11/30/kroenke-faces-lawsuit-over-maryland-heights-land.html

The interesting part in this is that St Louis County has been willing to refi their portion of the bonds, but the city of STL has been reluctant becuase it would have to go to a referendum.

By going to a suburb in the same county, some of the financial shackles will have been released.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

First person account from a former Jag into the NFL

On that particular day, I remember rummaging through my things, frantically trying to find that bottle. Just because my Adderall had been prescribed by a doctor, of course, didn't make it any less of a crutch or a necessity. I was anxious. I knew I wouldn't be able to perform to the best of my ability without it. At least, that's what I believed.

https://thecauldron.si.com/what-does-it-take-to-stay-in-the-nfl-you-don-t-want-to-know-21c6665cab00?xid=si_social#.qhd0uolyq

[I-10east]

This is old, but maybe the 'Rams Rules' started the Rams decline, and ultimate future move to LA LOL. Hilariously awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-d-Hf5Zzn4

[I-10east]

^^^Damnit, unfortunately we (Jags) had our WTF 'Jaguaring' fan video moment too...I don't know which one is worst, ours or STL's, SMH...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrevDYTvX58

[I-10east]

Cups are taped to the ceiling to catch leaks at Oakland's O.co Coliseum. Yikes!!!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/09/cups-taped-to-ceiling-are-catching-leaks-at-oakland-stadium/

[RattlerGator]

Not sure the Gator Bowl got that bad but I definitely remember sitting in the Orange Bowl the last time the Gators played the Canes in that stadium and wondering . . . What.InTheHell.IsThat with respect to a constant drip near my damn seat.

[I-10east]

Not sure the Gator Bowl got that bad but I definitely remember sitting in the Orange Bowl the last time the Gators played the Canes in that stadium and wondering . . . What.InTheHell.IsThat with respect to a constant drip near my damn seat.

I remember that the Gator Bowl's metal flooring had perforation (small holes) in spots, pretty scary. All bleacher seating. That place was a complete dump. That's what I think of when I think 'Gator Bowl' not what they have now, not to beat a dead horse.

[spuwho]

The political intrigue grows in the battle for NFL teams and stadiums. It appears the Chargers will play their last home game this weekend.

In a new dose of politics....it is revealed that the Charger/Raider LA Stadium Committee helped the St Louis Stadium Group get an additional  $200M loan on top of the $100M that the NFL is giving them.

That seems to resolve that referendum issue in St Louis. I was curious how the city council committee approved the new stadium deal unopposed.

Kroenke's LA stadium team has been really quiet. Now I know why.

Per the San Diego UT.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/dec/16/nfl-keeps-dropping-hints-chargers-are-good-as-gone/
As if we didn't already have enough writing on the wall that this Sunday's game against the Miami Dolphins would be the Chargers' final one in Qualcomm Stadium.

While there remains no certain conclusion, only the most optimistic (or foolhardy) would fail to miss the signs that keep piling up.

In recent days alone: The NFL has reportedly committed $100 million extra to St. Louis' stadium effort; a key NFL owner blasted the political machinery in San Diego; and that owner had his office inform the office of San Diego's mayor that their meeting scheduled for Thursday doesn't fit in the calendar.

"In San Diego, they've been trying for about 15 years," Texans owner Bob McNair, a member of the NBL's Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities, told the Houston Chronicle. "They've had all kinds of political problems there. At one time, half the council went to jail or something. It's been pretty bad. It's hard to negotiate when you've got to go to the jail to negotiate.

"So they haven't accomplished anything. They're saying they're going to do something now. But in order to do it, they'd have to have a referendum and the referendum isn't until next June. Well, we can't have these teams in limbo. You need to have certainty, and you don't know if the referendum would pass or fail. We can't take what they're saying very seriously."

While taking the narrative of San Diego's political instability to a new level, this is not unlike comments made in the past by McNair and other influential owners. What is significant is that it comes at this point in the game – days before a scheduled meeting with San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer and less than a month before a meeting in which NFL owners are expected to vote on relocation.

Fualconer's office fired off an e-mail to the NFL taking issue with the factual inaccuracies in McNair's statements.

"It appears Mr. McNair has been provided grossly inaccurate and outdated information about San Diego," mayoral spokesman Matt Awbrey said in a stement. "The city has completely new leadership in the mayor's office, city attorney's office and city council, and has worked for nearly a decade to get our city back on track."

One San Diego City Council member has served jail time in recent history. Then-City Council members Ralph Inzunza and Michael Zucchet were indicted in 2003 on extortion, wire fraud and conspiracy charges. Inzunza was sentenced to 21 months in prison and released in 2013. Zucchet' s conviction was overturned.

It is highly unlikely McNair was attempting to be literal. Rather, it is just the latest example of the excellent job Chargers chairman Dean Spanos has done explaining to his fellow owners the political tumult he has had to navigate in his stadium sojourn.

The mayor is trying to reschedule with McNair. But he shouldn't bother.

McNair is the only owner among the six that comprise the L.A. Committee with whom Faulconer has not met. He met with Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, and Richardson remains the most vocal of supporters of the Chargers and Oakland Raiders' proposed Carson stadium. New York Giants owner John Mara, a member of the committee who gave Faulconer face time, is also a Spanos ally. McNair made his thoughts known Tuesday.

Also, it was reported this week that the NFL has offered an extra $100 million on top of the standard $200 million G4 loan for stadium construction to help get a stadium in St. Louis. That additional funding was reportedly arranged by members of the L.A. Committee.

The St. Louis Rams are proposing an stadium in Inglewood. McNair told the Chronicle he does not think the Rams will meet the relocation guidelines.

A team need 24 votes to relocate. That's three-quarters of the league's 32 owners. It is believed that both Spanos and Rams' owner Stan Kroenke have enough votes to block the other but neither has enough to actually move. However, the L.A. Committee has been actively trying to arrange an amicable solution to the relocation quagmire in advance of the owners meeting Jan. 12 and 13 in Houston.

It seems they're making headway, which isn't good for San Diego.