The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Keith-N-Jax]

I-10 don't take everything so literally. Most on here like the Jags/Jacksonville. It will be a tough yr for the faithful' but I  believe better days are in the future.

[KenFSU]

I-10 don't take everything so literally. Most on here like the Jags/Jacksonville. It will be a tough yr for the faithful' but I  believe better days are in the future.

We all kind of follow the same pattern:

Sunday: "Man, that was AWFUL! I hate to say it, but I'm out for the season."

Tuesday: "Wellllll, _____________ didn't look THAT bad last week."

Thursday: "FOOTBALL!FOOTBALL!FOOTBALL!JAGS!FOOTBALL!"

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Hey, question for those who follow the (non-ACC) college game and NFL draft much more closely than I do:

What would you reckon to be the highest win total we could attain this year and still land a franchise QB in the draft?

I know there's a lot of moving parts to account for, but I don't want to root against this year's Jags team anymore than is absolutely necessary

[thelakelander]

I seriously don't see the Jags winning more than 3 games and getting to that total may be a miracle.  The Jags are the worst team in the league by far.  You will end up with a top 3 pick. Teddy Bridgewater, Tajh Boyd, Johnny Manziel, etc. will be available if you want them.

[Keith-N-Jax]

This yr will be tough, but I believe they are doing it the right way this time. That O=line needs to be fixed as well or the new QB will be running for his life as well.

[Traveller]

The following teams will most likely be in the market for a QB this draft:
- Jags
- Raiders
- Browns

The following teams might also consider a QB this draft, but not necessarily in the 1st round:
- Titans
- Cardinals
- Vikings
- Eagles

The following QB's will be draft eligible this spring:
- Bridgewater (Louisville)
- Boyd (Clemson)
- Hundley (UCLA)
- McCarron (Alabama)
- Morris (Miami)
- Manziel (Texas A&M)
- Mariota (Oregon)
- Murray (Georgia)
- Fales (San Jose St.)
- Carr (Fresno St.)
- Mettenberger (LSU)

I'm not sure where one draws the line between franchise QB and potentially really good QB, but I predict at least three QB's will be drafted with the first six picks.  Assuming the Jags end up with the 1st pick, do they (a) pick Bridgewater #1, (b) draft Clowney #1 (we still have no pass rush) and go for a McCarron or Murray at #33, or (c) trade the #1 pick (should be worth a lot this year) and roll the dice on getting a franchise QB later in round 1?

[thelakelander]

I'd roll the dice. I doubt Raiders will pick a QB with their first pick since they have Pryor. I also think we'll have to see how the season plays out with Cleveland and Weeden. Overall, there seems to be enough talent available to draft for another need and address QB later.

[duvaldude08]

The O-line needs to be gutted. Keep Jockel and get rid of the rest. I have hope for monroe, but so far this season he has been awful.  And we need a QB like yesterday  I have a feeling our draft will be offense heavy this year, as it was defense heavy last year.

[Gators312]

The O-line needs to be gutted. Keep Jockel and get rid of the rest. I have hope for monroe, but so far this season he has been awful.  And we need a QB like yesterday  I have a feeling our draft will be offense heavy this year, as it was defense heavy last year.

Until we get a good OL going it doesn't matter who you get at QB.  This team will have little success until then.

[Wacca Pilatka]

The O-line needs to be gutted. Keep Jockel and get rid of the rest. I have hope for monroe, but so far this season he has been awful.  And we need a QB like yesterday  I have a feeling our draft will be offense heavy this year, as it was defense heavy last year.

Actually, the advanced metrics that Pro Football Focus does say Monroe has been good - he looks like he is being beaten because he's trying to compensate for Rackley, who has been horrendous.

[blizz01]

Draft a QB in Rounds 1, 2, & 3 and then sort it out.  At least if we stockpile, we've hedged our bets & have potential trade bait.  I honestly doubt that the guys that we've been trotting out over that last two seasons would make many practice squads throughout the league.  It's now to the point when they indicate that BG will miss a game it's actually somewhat refreshing.  I'd hit O-Line exclusively in FA & later rounds.     

[KenFSU]

The following teams will most likely be in the market for a QB this draft:
- Jags
- Raiders
- Browns

The following teams might also consider a QB this draft, but not necessarily in the 1st round:
- Titans
- Cardinals
- Vikings
- Eagles

The following QB's will be draft eligible this spring:
- Bridgewater (Louisville)
- Boyd (Clemson)
- Hundley (UCLA)
- McCarron (Alabama)
- Morris (Miami)
- Manziel (Texas A&M)
- Mariota (Oregon)
- Murray (Georgia)
- Fales (San Jose St.)
- Carr (Fresno St.)
- Mettenberger (LSU)

I'm not sure where one draws the line between franchise QB and potentially really good QB, but I predict at least three QB's will be drafted with the first six picks.  Assuming the Jags end up with the 1st pick, do they (a) pick Bridgewater #1, (b) draft Clowney #1 (we still have no pass rush) and go for a McCarron or Murray at #33, or (c) trade the #1 pick (should be worth a lot this year) and roll the dice on getting a franchise QB later in round 1?

Thanks man, this is exactly the info that I was looking for

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I've only seen one game by Bridgewater and came away completely unimpressed.  But that was only one game.

Manziel, I'm afraid, isn't going to have the maturity to be a high 1st rounder.  He probably needs a team that can stash him until he grows up a bit.  Think Ryan Mallett to the Patriots.

I've too close to Boyd and the Clemson program to be unbiased.  He looks, to me, like the type of mobile QB that can make the all the throws that's sweeping the league now.  Plus, I like the fact that he stayed behind one more year to try and bring home a championship.  That's a character issue that I like to see.

Clowney has been completely underwhelming this year.  Maybe he's only playing to NOT get hurt, but he doesn't even come close to matching the dominance he showed last year. 

McCarron is an interesting choice.  He doesn't put up the numbers that some of the other QBs do, but he makes plays when they count and even when they're down, he doesn't seem to get rattled.  Playing behind a strong D helps, but that's life in the NFL.  He'll have a competent defense in the NFL to keep games from being a race to 50.

Murray appears to be a decent QB, but even going back to last year, he seems to choke a bit when the pressure gets turned up.  That doesn't make me feel good, knowing he has a history of making poor decisions, when my team is down by 6 and have 75 yards, 43 seconds and no timeouts.  Will he, again, hang on to the ball as the clock runs out instead of throwing it away and getting another play?


That's my opinion on a few of the draftees.  The answers to the questions I have, have yet to be determined.  We're in the first season of a new head coach, GM and a really young team.  People say our D doesn't look great, but I say we haven't been blown out yet.  We may not have much of a pass rush, but our coverage has been pretty good.  We're not getting gutted by the run game.  I think our defense is just on the field way, way, way too long.  There's been progress on that side of the ball.

Our offense is another beast altogether.  From what I've seen, I can't tell exactly what kind of offense Fisch is trying to run due to the poor play of our line and QB.  That's compounded to shut down the running game because teams can stack 7,8 even 9 in the box guaranteeing to get pressure on our QB.  I think that's why we're seeing so many screens, slants, smoke routes and 5 yd hooks.  Doing what he can with what he has to work with.  Play action isn't even an option at this point. 

I don't think we'll have any luck trying to predict who we draft until our decision makers can have a semblance of an idea of what kind of team they have.  We don't want a Murray or even a McCarron if we're going to be running a mostly spread, read-option system.  But the flip side to that is we're not going to want a Boyd / Bridgewater if we're going to run a more traditional drop back, pro-style offense.  Right now, at least for me, I don't have a clue what we're capable of running because we don't seem to have the personnel to run either. 

My best case scenario:  Get Gabbert back in Week 4 to knock some rust off against Manning part Deux, lol.  Then in week 5, we basically start a new season into the bye.  We're down 0-4, but we'll finally have a complete, though rusty, team with Blackmon back.  Maybe going 1-4 in the next 5 games, but by the time San Diego comes, we should at least start seeing some real momentum.  Even at 1-8.

After the bye week, break it down into two 4 game series.  The first we should even out at 2-2 and possibly even a 3-1, but that's hoping for a bad outing by the Cards.  They won't have Warner this time, so that'll help.

The second 4 game series, again, I'm looking at 1-3, 2-2.

Regardless whether we're 5-11 or 2-14 again, I would like to see Gabbert finish out the year.  I want to see Joeckel get better.  I want to see how much of a playmaker either Ace or Robinson can be when they have others around them drawing attention.  I want to see our D to continue getting better, because they're not playing horribly.  On that note, even though we're not getting sacks, we are rushing and hurrying the opposing QBs and forcing the checkdowns.  We need better coverage LBs if we're not getting home. 

[duvaldude08]

The O-line needs to be gutted. Keep Jockel and get rid of the rest. I have hope for monroe, but so far this season he has been awful.  And we need a QB like yesterday  I have a feeling our draft will be offense heavy this year, as it was defense heavy last year.

Actually, the advanced metrics that Pro Football Focus does say Monroe has been good - he looks like he is being beaten because he's trying to compensate for Rackley, who has been horrendous.

I thought about that also, thats why Im trying not to jump to conclusions about Monore just yet.

[copperfiend]

The O-line needs to be gutted. Keep Jockel and get rid of the rest. I have hope for monroe, but so far this season he has been awful.  And we need a QB like yesterday  I have a feeling our draft will be offense heavy this year, as it was defense heavy last year.

Actually, the advanced metrics that Pro Football Focus does say Monroe has been good - he looks like he is being beaten because he's trying to compensate for Rackley, who has been horrendous.

I think you are right about Monroe. He isn't the problem. I think it is obvious they miss Lewis as well. He might be an average weapon at tight end but you can't discount his blocking. One of the best in the league.

[Wacca Pilatka]

I think you are right about Monroe. He isn't the problem. I think it is obvious they miss Lewis as well. He might be an average weapon at tight end but you can't discount his blocking. One of the best in the league.

And both Reisner and Harbor seem to be more receivers than blockers.