1534 Oak Street Breaks Ground

Started by Metro Jacksonville, June 28, 2011, 03:04:34 AM

Tacachale

#75
This is a as a win-win. We get a new, useful building that requires destroying a single century oak tree and no historic structures. How many trees get cut down every time we develop a greenfield area? And how many historic structures could we lose if they hadn't picked an unoccupied lot? Plus, if they're really planting more trees to make up for this one, then so much the better.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

tayana42

From the photos I can't tell where the oak mentioned above is located.  Sure looks like they cut down a lot more than one oak however.  Since they really didn't add any parking (just changed from parallel to nose-in) you would think they could have saved that tree.

Steve

Quote from: tayana42 on July 25, 2011, 04:22:50 PM
From the photos I can't tell where the oak mentioned above is located.  Sure looks like they cut down a lot more than one oak however.  Since they really didn't add any parking (just changed from parallel to nose-in) you would think they could have saved that tree.

The building does take up the entire site, and the parking addition on Oak did add 11 spaces. where the tree was will be part of the building.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

for those of you keeping score, I think they took down more telephone poles than trees so that maybe 40 years from now the new trees that they plant won't have the same fate via developer or JEA......

QuoteTuesday, August 2, 2011What a difference a day makes
The first significant improvements to the corner of Margaret and Oak can now be seen. At our urging, and in record time, JEA was on site Friday to remove the power poles and associated lines past Mossfire grill. Black Sheep Restaurant Group and DW Meyers spent the first part of the week prepping the area for this momentous occasion - a true public-private partnership. The results will allow the new tree canopy designed by D Coop to flourish when completed. The last concrete pole will be removed in the coming days.

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dougskiles

Quote from: cline on July 13, 2011, 09:08:54 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 13, 2011, 08:39:34 AM
Seems to be that everyone wants to ignore the fact that there's a mostly unused parking garage attached to the condos.  Parking isn't a problem, it's just not advertised.  Resident parking is on the top floors and is protected by a lift arm.  The bottom floors are for public use.

Yes there are plenty of spaces in the garage for the public to use.  I think the problem is people don't know that they are allowed to park there.  Perhaps better signage would alleviate that problem.

Seriously?  Is it free?  I've been going to Zoe's and Al's for years now and never knew that I could have parked in the garage.  I wonder if they are intentionally not advertising it?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

^ I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case (not advertised), but to answer your first two questions Yes we're serious and yes it's free.   ;D
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acme54321

#81
Where did you quote this from?

And what's up with this 1075 Hendricks?
http://dcoop.com/tag/restaurant/

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 02, 2011, 06:23:41 PM
for those of you keeping score, I think they took down more telephone poles than trees so that maybe 40 years from now the new trees that they plant won't have the same fate via developer or JEA......

QuoteTuesday, August 2, 2011What a difference a day makes
The first significant improvements to the corner of Margaret and Oak can now be seen. At our urging, and in record time, JEA was on site Friday to remove the power poles and associated lines past Mossfire grill. Black Sheep Restaurant Group and DW Meyers spent the first part of the week prepping the area for this momentous occasion - a true public-private partnership. The results will allow the new tree canopy designed by D Coop to flourish when completed. The last concrete pole will be removed in the coming days.

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iluvolives

If you pull into the garage there are at least 10 signs that say "Zoe's Parking"  so they aren't trying to hide it- although I don't think there are signs outside the garage but I imagine that because of aesthetic reasons.

Garden guy

Seeing that space without those poles is like taking a breath of fresh air...those poles just mess up the scenery everywhere...

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: acme54321 on August 02, 2011, 08:56:45 PM
Where did you quote this from?

And what's up with this 1075 Hendricks?
http://dcoop.com/tag/restaurant/

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 02, 2011, 06:23:41 PM
for those of you keeping score, I think they took down more telephone poles than trees so that maybe 40 years from now the new trees that they plant won't have the same fate via developer or JEA......

QuoteTuesday, August 2, 2011What a difference a day makes
The first significant improvements to the corner of Margaret and Oak can now be seen. At our urging, and in record time, JEA was on site Friday to remove the power poles and associated lines past Mossfire grill. Black Sheep Restaurant Group and DW Meyers spent the first part of the week prepping the area for this momentous occasion - a true public-private partnership. The results will allow the new tree canopy designed by D Coop to flourish when completed. The last concrete pole will be removed in the coming days.

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http://1534oakstreet.blogspot.com/2011/08/what-difference-day-makes.html?spref=fb
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tufsu1

and on the other hand, I will no longer be able to walk to Chew

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: tufsu1 on August 30, 2011, 03:59:59 PM
and on the other hand, I will no longer be able to walk to Chew

That's okay, though. You'll always have that Winn-Dixie...


thelakelander

Tufsu1, look on the bright side.  Chew won't be within walking distance but you'll soon be within a good buggy's push of downtown's new "department store"......Family Dollar.   While its a couple of notches below Macy's and TJ Maxx, it shouldn't take them long to plop their metal shed on the corner of State & Liberty.  Even though construction hasn't started, it will probably be open before Chew flips on their lights in Five Points.
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tufsu1

Quote from: thelakelander on August 30, 2011, 05:43:10 PM
Tufsu1, look on the bright side.  Chew won't be within walking distance but you'll soon be within a good buggy's push of downtown's new "department store"......Family Dollar.   While its a couple of notches below Macy's and TJ Maxx, it shouldn't take them long to plop their metal shed on the corner of State & Liberty.  Even though construction hasn't started, it will probably be open before Chew flips on their lights in Five Points.

thanks Lake, that makes me feel much better.

and Chris, while I do like Chew, a Winn Dixie sub for dinner also hits the spot!

fsujax

hey those wings at the Winn Dixie are pretty good too! just saying.