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CNN Reporting Bin Laden is dead

Started by CityLife, May 01, 2011, 10:46:44 PM

Ajax

Bottoms up for me because I definitely would have thought that was from the Onion!  ;D

Timkin

I am sure the photos will get out no matter what.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: ben says on May 03, 2011, 01:18:15 PM
These groups learned to speak the language we taught them. And our response was to speak in kind. The language of violence, the language of occupationâ€"the occupation of the Middle East, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistanâ€"has been the best recruiting tool al-Qaida has been handed. If it is correct that Osama bin Laden is dead, then it will spiral upwards with acts of suicidal vengeance. And I expect most probably on American soil. The tragedy of the Middle East is one where we proved incapable of communicating in any other language than the brute and brutal force of empire.

How profound.  I love these guys whose sole job is to show us how smart they are... Really?  He is actually predicting acts of suicidal vengeance?  Who woulda thunk it??  

His analysis of bin laden as a mere figurehead is wrong also.  Oh it may be true on the day of his death... His guidance, financing and leadership of "the cell" is well documented.  

With all his wisdom he never really suggests how we should have reacted to 9/11 had we been as enlightened as him... nor how to deal with bin laden and al qaida except for some vague reference to "isolate them".  Yeah right... I can see that going well.  "Today I announce a program of isolation against al qaida.  I know you all want to just go get em... but we were told that simply isolating them within their own communities will be punishment enough".  Sure thing boss... That speech will go over well in Peoria.

Terrorism is a tactic??  WTF?  Who knew?  Thank you Mr Hedges!  Off to the national security council for you.

I could go on... there are not enough "roll eyes" for junk like this...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

johnnyroadglide

And while we are talking about pictures, there is a story going round Facebook that a supposed video of his execution is actually a virus. So be careful if you get any e-mails with such attachments. For me personally, I don't need to see a picture of his body. While I am not an Obama fan at all, I will take him at his word on this. Why? Because if this really is a lie and someone, somewhere down the road uncovers the truth, Obama would not get re-elected and probabaly wouldn't even be able to get a job as a dogcatcher. He is not a stupid man.
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus (Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon).

Timkin

Quote from: KenFSU on May 03, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Ajax on May 03, 2011, 01:16:50 PM
I don't hear a lot of people questioning whether or not he's dead.  And those who believe he's still alive will say the photos are faked.  There are still birthers out there who think the Birth Certificate Obama released is faked so what's the point?

Closure. Plain and simple. If you don't hear people questioning whether he is truly dead, you aren't listening closely enough. Doubts have already arisen, both at home and world wide. There is a massive difference between discretely releasing the photos and parading him around the nation on a stick. We have spent $1.3 trillion dollars to bring this man to justice, and after all that we've sacrificed in the last ten years as a nation, and all of the sacrifice we've asked (or taken) from the world, we owe irrefutable proof that the mission was successful. There's nothing bloodthirsty about it. We simply need that closure, in the same way a victim's family sometimes needs the closure of witnessing an execution.

The Arab world also needs closure. Bin Laden had to have known this day would come eventually. You've got to believe he has produced some videos to be released after his death, likely claiming not to believe any story of him being killed. Last thing we need is to leave doubt that he is still alive only to have him return from the dead via modern technology and become this Messianic figure.

Bin Laden took something very personal from each and every one of us, and it's not in the rights of the United States government to decide to keep that proof to themselves.

Show us a body, not for high-fives and vengeance, but for simple closure. That way we can all move on with our lives.

As was noted above, the story we have been told is ALREADY falling apart.

Problem is ,, there are so many people out there who so closely resemble him. I know they said DNA proved that it is him.    That is enough , for me personally.

and I know I already said this ,but rest assured, there will be some sort of retaliation attempt.  It is just the sort of evil person he was and the group that he was a part of and what they represent.

KenFSU

Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 03, 2011, 02:11:53 PM
While I am not an Obama fan at all, I will take him at his word on this. Why? Because if this really is a lie and someone, somewhere down the road uncovers the truth, Obama would not get re-elected and probabaly wouldn't even be able to get a job as a dogcatcher. He is not a stupid man.

Does the term "WMD" ring a bell :)

johnnyroadglide

Yep except there were WMD found...and I am not going to get into any kind of argument over that..
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus (Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon).

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: wsansewjs on May 03, 2011, 01:15:40 PM
OH BOY OH BOY! DO bring the gory photo to us! -rubs hands-

-serpent style eyes glaring at the photo-

(sarcasm)

-Josh

That's exactly how I feel. Except I'm not being sarcastic.

Watch the video "jumpers" and tell me you don't want to see that fucker with a bullet hole through his head.


ChriswUfGator

Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 03, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
Yep except there were WMD found...and I am not going to get into any kind of argument over that..

Oh, there were? Where?

That would be serious news, to everyone including our own government!


Dog Walker

Osama is now not only dead, but had become increasingly irrelevant to the young people of the Arab world who are right now finding and fighting their own way to freedom and not his way.

"Violence never settles anything!"  Oh, yeah.  Ask the people of Carthage about that.  

Speak the "language of violence" to me a guess how I'll answer.
When all else fails hug the dog.

hillary supporter

Quote from: Timkin on May 03, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
I don't need to see a picture of him.. I believe he is dead.  I just hope there is not major retaliation for this.
hear hear! With that being done, All essential management of Al Quaida was eliminated a while ago. Great job Mr President,
God bless America.

johnnyroadglide

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on May 03, 2011, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 03, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
Yep except there were WMD found...and I am not going to get into any kind of argument over that..

Oh, there were? Where?

That would be serious news, to everyone including our own government!
From the U.S Department of Defense
WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 â€" The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.

"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.

The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997.

The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal.

"Mustard is a blister agent (that) actually produces burning of any area (where) an individual may come in contact with the agent," he said. It also is potentially fatal if it gets into a person's lungs.

Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus (Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon).

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 03, 2011, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on May 03, 2011, 02:54:23 PM
Quote from: johnnyroadglide on May 03, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
Yep except there were WMD found...and I am not going to get into any kind of argument over that..

Oh, there were? Where?

That would be serious news, to everyone including our own government!
From the U.S Department of Defense
WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.

"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.

The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997.

The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal.

"Mustard is a blister agent (that) actually produces burning of any area (where) an individual may come in contact with the agent," he said. It also is potentially fatal if it gets into a person's lungs.

Some leftover poison gas from Saddam's Kurdish campaign in the 1980s?

Seriously?

Are you kidding?

So when you can't find the WMD's, you just redefine "WMD" and claim you were right? LMAO...

So let's dispense with the B.S., shall we? What Bush said was that Saddam was buying Yellowcake Uranium on the black market and was developing a nuclear weapons program. So...where are THOSE WMDs? You know, the ones Bush talked about? The ones we invaded Iraq for? What's next? Saddam ate some beans at dinner, had a particularly bad fart, now it's a "WMD"?


Dog Walker

Well, then a cluster bomb is a "weapon of mass destruction" or so is a runaway car.  They were stretching the definition of "weapon of mass destruction" to try to cover their rear end by defining anything that could kill more than one person at a time as one.

What they were looking for and had said existed were atomic bombs or radioactive dirty bombs, or biological weapon, not small shells with mustard gas in them.  Remember the truck mounted "biological weapons factories"?
When all else fails hug the dog.

BridgeTroll

QuoteA Senior US Official tells CNN 10 hard drives, 5 computers and more than 100 storage devices which includes discs, DVDs and thumb drives were taken from the compound.


What remains of al qaida is scurrying like cockroaches when you turn on the light...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."