Republicans, Abortion, Women's Rights, and the challenges facing them.

[spuwho]

Again? What now? Do I need to register my uterus as a corporation? Seems like that's the only way to make Republicans not want to regulate something...

I wouldn't do that if I were you.....the Democrats might try to tax it.

[AmyLynne]

Again? What now? Do I need to register my uterus as a corporation? Seems like that's the only way to make Republicans not want to regulate something...

I wouldn't do that if I were you.....the Democrats might try to tax it.

And then hand it over to a union!!

[avonjax]

mtraininjax, I sure am glad you have great health care. Just hope you never lose it. The big thing now is to hire people part time and give them NO BENEFITS. And at the "unliving wage," many people are offered, they can't afford health care either. So off to Shands, or another emergency room and let everyone else absorb the cost. Or as I am sure would make you happy just die in their bed and leave the poor tax payers alone. OH, and give more tax cuts to the wealthy and large corporations because god knows they shouldn't be punished for making obscene profits while they ship all the jobs overseas. I have friends with relatives in Europe who would move here but they can't afford to lose their healthcare. And EVERYONE I know who has had healthcare in Europe never complained. Sure some people complain about everything, but unlike here being ill doesn't destroy your life and put you in financial ruin. And if your argument is how horrible the wait is for many of them, just think about the people in this country who can't even afford basic medical needs. Many can't even afford to go to a doctor, or they have to decide which necessary drug they can afford to pay for any given month. With all the opportunity that this county offers, the personal health of the citizens is one place that we fail miserably. You may not want to admit it, but our failure in this regard kills people.

[avonjax]

Just so everyone will know, the examples I mentioned above are not stories I have heard, but actual people I know, or relatives of mine.

[Garden guy]

He's forcing women to have sonagram before all abortions....it's a shame this man is taking our species 110 years backward....can we not recall him?

[uptowngirl]

What? OMG say it is not so!!!! Please say he is not making these poor women see a picture of what they are going to abort, no, no, no!!!! The horror! The unfairness! What a freaking Monster!

WTH- so what? How is that taking my rights away? I mean, it is a waste of money if you ask me- unless you are THREE months along, and then you SHOULD have to see what you are killing, if you can't decide before then,well I think your womb loses it's rights over the rights of the child living there. Understand how a LATE term abortion works? Talk about the stone age. 

[Garden guy]

What? OMG say it is not so!!!! Please say he is not making these poor women see a picture of what they are going to abort, no, no, no!!!! The horror! The unfairness! What a freaking Monster!

WTH- so what? How is that taking my rights away? I mean, it is a waste of money if you ask me- unless you are THREE months along, and then you SHOULD have to see what you are killing, if you can't decide before then,well I think your womb loses it's rights over the rights of the child living there. Understand how a LATE term abortion works? Talk about the stone age. 

It's none of your business or mine or the state government what a woman does with her body..period....reguardless what you call it it is still the womans business and we should keep our big noses out of her life. It sure it's the damn churchs business

[mtraininjax]

He's forcing women to have sonagram before all abortions....it's a shame this man is taking our species 110 years backward....can we not recall him?

OMG!!!! And Medicare is making all home healthcare beneficiaries see a doctor to prove that their care is not fraudulent. What is the world coming to?  

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2011/March/24/face-to-face-home-health-rule.aspx

Under the requirement, which takes effect April 1, Medicare beneficiaries will have to see a doctor 90 days before or 30 days after starting home health services in order for the home health agency to get reimbursed. That face-to-face visit may be a burden for some home-bound frail seniors as well as those living in rural areas, the industry says.

But some Medicare experts have little sympathy for industry complaints. "Home health is a benefit that is out of control," said Dr. Robert Berenson, a health policy expert at the Urban Institute.

[mtraininjax]

mtraininjax, I sure am glad you have great health care. Just hope you never lose it. The big thing now is to hire people part time and give them NO BENEFITS.

Who ever said BENEFITS were part of a job? They are a reward, and the state says I can exclude them for 90 days here in Florida while I have you or the new hire on a trial basis. Seriously, imagine if every job had benefits? The costs for everything would rise. your coffee, your danish, your food, everything will rise if we give BENEFITS to everyone, and pretty soon, we'll be just like Europe.

[uptowngirl]

What? OMG say it is not so!!!! Please say he is not making these poor women see a picture of what they are going to abort, no, no, no!!!! The horror! The unfairness! What a freaking Monster!

WTH- so what? How is that taking my rights away? I mean, it is a waste of money if you ask me- unless you are THREE months along, and then you SHOULD have to see what you are killing, if you can't decide before then,well I think your womb loses it's rights over the rights of the child living there. Understand how a LATE term abortion works? Talk about the stone age.  

It's none of your business or mine or the state government what a woman does with her body..period....reguardless what you call it it is still the womans business and we should keep our big noses out of her life. It sure it's the damn churchs business

You are  correct, to a certain extent. Specifically LATE TERM abortions. At that time it becomes TWO peoples rights at odds with eachother. Hell renters have more right than a baby at three months- you can't just decide to show up and throw your renter out one day- you have to go to court and prove the renter needs to go (and you certainly cannot kill them and take them out one piece at a time unless it is in self defense!)  Women do have a right to determine their own destiny, their first choice is to use birth control, their second choice is a little pill called the day after, their third choice is an early term abortion, If they are too lazy or too unsure about their decisions, after that they should not have any more choice in the matter.

As to having to get a sonogram, again so what? If a woman feels she is making the right decision for herself then a sonogram is not going to make a difference. Why should anyone be upset about this?

[buckethead]

They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

[copperfiend]

Less government interference in our everyday lives....unless you are a pregnant woman.

[copperfiend]

I mean, it is a waste of money if you ask me- unless you are THREE months along, and then you SHOULD have to see what you are killing

Why?

[Garden guy]

I mean, it is a waste of money if you ask me- unless you are THREE months along, and then you SHOULD have to see what you are killing

Why?

Exactly why?

[uptowngirl]

GG, some people should be given an award for having the foresight to throw that sperm away!

And I am surprised you do not understand the process to actually create a human life, but it takes a little more than a tissue full of sperm.

But back to your original topic, why is it so horrendous (other than the waste of money) to have a sonogram prior to an abortion?