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[Shwaz]

I-10east imo we were lucky, hail marys, you do realize how many times a team in NFL history has won a game like that, 59yr field goals. If we have to win games like that and only be 8-8 then were in trouble.

Keith - both games were tied. Regardless of the winning plays we still had just as much of chance to win in overtime as the other teams.

True, but we were lucky. Manning, and Houston's offense in OT- arent we lucky we had the ball last with our defense. That's all I am saying. I am not saying we shouldnt have won nor I am trying to take away anything from the win. Those were exciting/thrilling wins I would never want to take anything away from those two games!!

There's nothing lucky about hitting a 59 yard field goal. I'll give you 100 chances to do it and bet my salary for the next 10 years that you don't come close on a single one.

Also how many games were close that we lost... and could have easily gone the other way. The Giants Redskins & Colts games were all win-able games.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

And I also feel Del Rio is soft and is not hard enough on them. IMO

We had our OTAs cut short because of too much contact.
We haven't had any arrests this season.
The team has topped every other team in off-field visits.

How many of you have played team sports?  The better teams are typically the ones that played together the longest.  They may not have been the best their first 2-3 seasons, but they ended up being the team to beat for the long haul.   I am a big believer in keeping the team together, so long as there is marked improvement - which there was.  And as we keep adding talent to the core, we can only get better - right?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

There's nothing lucky about hitting a 59 yard field goal. I'll give you 100 chances to do it and bet my salary for the next 10 years that you don't come close on a single one.

I'll take that bet if you let me kick it off of a tee. 

[Shwaz]

And I also feel Del Rio is soft and is not hard enough on them. IMO

We had our OTAs cut short because of too much contact.
We haven't had any arrests this season.
The team has topped every other team in off-field visits.

How many of you have played team sports?  The better teams are typically the ones that played together the longest.  They may not have been the best their first 2-3 seasons, but they ended up being the team to beat for the long haul.   I am a big believer in keeping the team together, so long as there is marked improvement - which there was.  And as we keep adding talent to the core, we can only get better - right?

Excellent points. From what I've read all the players that met with Weaver said the same thing.

[Shwaz]

There's nothing lucky about hitting a 59 yard field goal. I'll give you 100 chances to do it and bet my salary for the next 10 years that you don't come close on a single one.

I'll take that bet if you let me kick it off of a tee.  

No sir. I'll give you 11 gigantic men trying to block your kick and another 11 trying to block them.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

There's nothing lucky about hitting a 59 yard field goal. I'll give you 100 chances to do it and bet my salary for the next 10 years that you don't come close on a single one.

I'll take that bet if you let me kick it off of a tee.  

No sir. I'll give you 11 gigantic men trying to block your kick and another 11 trying to block them.

Do I still get the tee?

[Keith-N-Jax]

Del Rio has to take some of the blame, he is the coach isn't he? When your 4-11 in December drafting isn't the only issue. 65-64 over all I guess that's drafting also. Don't worry we wont be 8-8 next yr. Here's to looking at the east side of the stadium empty again. Del Rio is the only head coach in the NFL that's been with its team longer than 7 yrs with no division titles. I bet J.Fischer could take these same so called scrubs and have a number 2 or 3 defense. I don't blame the fans. At least WW stated he made some mistakes Del Zero was one of them.

I'm sorry to see such a negative outlook... now it's an empty stadium. IF you are correct and the stadium is empty because the team isn't winning... then I will absolutely blame the fans. A team captain should know that.

I am also sorry because I do care for my city and team and only wish the best. But unlike you and I who will probably be in the stands next season, many people are tired of the Del Rio/DG experiment. Same people Same results yr after yr. I just don't see how WW can expect this team to make the playoffs with the same style of play we've seen for the last few years. I hope I am wrong because the Jags really ended the season the worst way possible. Also just because people are critical doesn't mean they don't care. Unfortunately we don't have a waiting list of people waiting to get into EverBank Field. I think they just killed all the momentum they had gain in 10 going into the 11 season. Sorry to be so negative, just a little disappointed how the season ended.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Its not my Job to kick 59yr field goals.

[Shwaz]

Del Rio has to take some of the blame, he is the coach isn't he? When your 4-11 in December drafting isn't the only issue. 65-64 over all I guess that's drafting also. Don't worry we wont be 8-8 next yr. Here's to looking at the east side of the stadium empty again. Del Rio is the only head coach in the NFL that's been with its team longer than 7 yrs with no division titles. I bet J.Fischer could take these same so called scrubs and have a number 2 or 3 defense. I don't blame the fans. At least WW stated he made some mistakes Del Zero was one of them.

I'm sorry to see such a negative outlook... now it's an empty stadium. IF you are correct and the stadium is empty because the team isn't winning... then I will absolutely blame the fans. A team captain should know that.

I am also sorry because I do care for my city and team and only wish the best. But unlike you and I who will probably be in the stands next season, many people are tired of the Del Rio/DG experiment. Same people Same results yr after yr. I just don't see how WW can expect this team to make the playoffs with the same style of play we've seen for the last few years. I hope I am wrong because the Jags really ended the season the worst way possible. Also just because people are critical doesn't mean they don't care. Unfortunately we don't have a waiting list of people waiting to get into EverBank Field. I think they just killed all the momentum they had gain in 10 going into the 11 season. Sorry to be so negative, just a little disappointed how the season ended.

It's impossible to be anything but disappointed when your team is in control of the division and implodes down the stretch. Is Del Rio partly to blame?- Of course. Would firing him solve all the years of bad drafting?- No.

This team is doing a great job of not letting the fans dictate it's personnel moves. That's a good thing. It's the fans that are immature and hold their ticket money ransom like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

Don't forget we did this whole song & dance last year with the speculation & let down of JDR keeping his job. We also made it through the Tebow draft and backlash and didn't have a single blackout.

Its not my Job to kick 59yr field goals.

It's a good thing we've got Scobee then when the game is on the line...

[Keith-N-Jax]

 

Its not my Job to kick 59yr field goals.

It's a good thing we've got Scobee then when the game is on the line...

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Tell that to the Washington Redskins....

[Shwaz]

Its not my Job to kick 59yr field goals.

It's a good thing we've got Scobee then when the game is on the line...

Tell that to the Washington Redskins....
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I'm sure Scobee would have if the offense could've gotten him in range on their first drive in OT

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Let's try to look at it this way....  We were physically hurt after playing the Raiders.  We won the game, but at what cost?  We lost to the Colts the next week and were emotionally hurt and for them, that was their playoff game.  They knew they had a chance, but couldn't pull through it.  The next two games didn't really matter, the only hope was Tennessee pulling out a win and who can put much hope into that after the way they've played.

We can play armchair QB all day, all week and all off-season, but fact is once they lost to Indy, they were done.  so I don't look at it as a late season collapse, more than a team of beat-up guys that didn't have much to play for.  If you want to play the what-if game, I think that we would have won the Skins & the Texans game if there was a wild card spot available.  

[Keith-N-Jax]

They were saying on Jaguar All Access they lost to the Colts 3 times. I believe they did. They seemed very flat during the Skins game.  I think your right about the Raider game. It took all they had to win that game and then to follow that and head to INDY for the Div title. I think their season ended there. Had the Colts three remaining opponents been either the Chargers, Pats, Saints, or Steelers maybe we would have seen a little more bite in the Jags. Waiting and Hoping the Colts lose is a bad position to be in. 2011 will see what their really made of.

[hanjin1]

Let's try to look at it this way....  We were physically hurt after playing the Raiders.  We won the game, but at what cost?  We lost to the Colts the next week and were emotionally hurt and for them, that was their playoff game.  They knew they had a chance, but couldn't pull through it.  The next two games didn't really matter, the only hope was Tennessee pulling out a win and who can put much hope into that after the way they've played.

We can play armchair QB all day, all week and all off-season, but fact is once they lost to Indy, they were done.  so I don't look at it as a late season collapse, more than a team of beat-up guys that didn't have much to play for.  If you want to play the what-if game, I think that we would have won the Skins & the Texans game if there was a wild card spot available. 

you can't say the last 2 games didn't matter, when know one knew what was going to happen at the time. they don't matter now, but they still matter in the sense of team pride and giving the fans something to look forward to in 2011. losing 3 straight after losing 4 straight the year before, looks like there is no improvement from the team. and don't say you didn't have much hope in tennessee, when they were on their last drive to win the game at the end. i wonder how crazy the fans would be right now if indy would have lost that game on sunday

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

you can't say the last 2 games didn't matter, when know one knew what was going to happen at the time. they don't matter now, but they still matter in the sense of team pride and giving the fans something to look forward to in 2011. losing 3 straight after losing 4 straight the year before, looks like there is no improvement from the team. and don't say you didn't have much hope in tennessee, when they were on their last drive to win the game at the end. i wonder how crazy the fans would be right now if indy would have lost that game on sunday

I'm just sayin', try and look at it from their perspective. 

If you bust your ass for 14 weeks trying to close sales for a company paid vacay, and it falls through week 15, you're probably not going to really give a sh!t about weeks 16 & 17, because the only way you get to go is if Timmy, they sales leader for the last 9 years can't finish.  Timmy's known for finishing.  Your year ended when you failed to close out Timmy.