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Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, January 03, 2011, 05:05:39 PM

Keith-N-Jax

I want the Jags team that could over come a defecit > 10 points and win the game still. Even though they did show some resovle in that Raider game to me that was their best win in 2010.

hanjin1

What I find funny is that Wayne said that if we don't make the playoffs next year that there wouldn't be a lot of people back, basically saying that Jack would be fired if he doesn't make the playoffs. Did Wayne take a good hard look at the schedule for next season? Besides the normal Indy, Tenn and Hou twice a year. We have Baltimore, Cincy, New Orleans, Tampa and San Diego at home, plus Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Carolina and the Jets away. Does anyone see a playoff season next year??? You might as well fire Jack right now. I don't see this team winning more than 6 or 7 games next season

Keith-N-Jax


Jason

We certainly have room to improve but many other teams, especially those in the playoffs, will likely have a gob of free agents looking for their next pay day.  Teams like Jacksonville and those with lesser records will have a field day sucking up the talent.

IMO, we have a descent team and a descent staff.  All we need is that spark to keep things consistent and playing at a high level.  Too many other teams around the league are in turmoil and will be rebuilding next year.  I think there is a great opportunity for us to be something great next year and take the division.

I-10east

#19
What have me pulling my hair out with talk on the radio is alot of people saying "The Jags could've been 6-10 with the lucky wins over Indy, and Houston". I find it astonding that these pessimistic idiots don't never mention the two close losses against New York, and Washington which would have easily gotten us to 10-6; It's not like those two games were sure shot losses from the get go by no means. The Jags could've been anywhere from "6-10 to 10-6" NOT "6-10 to 8-8" like the fickle fans believe; Although I like to live in reality, and I realize that we actually were 8-8, no desired record by no means. If we're no better next year, Wayne is gonna clean house.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on January 04, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
I want the Jags team that could over come a defecit > 10 points and win the game still. Even though they did show some resovle in that Raider game to me that was their best win in 2010.
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Oh yeah that Raiders game was ON FIRE! IMO that was the game of the year.
Jaguars 2.0

Shwaz

I'm surprised to see how many fans put all the failures on the coach vs. the 6+ years of terrible drafting.

If we're 8-8 again next year it's because the team which was dismantled in 2009 isn't through being overhauled. It's obvious the team has glaring needs and that the positions filled thus far have been well chosen.  2 offseasons was clearly not enough to repair the damage done.

Everyone needs to step off the Del Rio ledge, temper their expectations, look forward to an exciting off season of drafting new talent and watching them grow.

And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Keith-N-Jax

I-10east imo we were lucky, hail marys, you do realize how many times a team in NFL history has won a game like that, 59yr field goals. If we have to win games like that and only be 8-8 then were in trouble.

hanjin1

Quote from: Shwaz on January 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
I'm surprised to see how many fans put all the failures on the coach vs. the 6+ years of terrible drafting.

If we're 8-8 again next year it's because the team which was dismantled in 2009 isn't through being overhauled. It's obvious the team has glaring needs and that the positions filled thus far have been well chosen.  2 offseasons was clearly not enough to repair the damage done.

Everyone needs to step off the Del Rio ledge, temper their expectations, look forward to an exciting off season of drafting new talent and watching them grow.



I'm not on the del zero ledge, i'm just stating the facts, that wayne said if they don't make the playoffs next year that he would clean house. Can anyone in their right mind see us making the playoffs next year? i don't see how wayne is so sure of this. if he is telling the truth, then you might as well get rid of him right now. also i loved how he tried to defend rasheens play this year and stated that garrard was a top 12 qb in the league, by looking at his stats. i don't doubt garrard is an ok player, but they need to draft a qb and from what wayne was saying, it almost seems like they won't address the qb situation at all. if they don't draft a qb in the first couple rounds, oh geez i don't even know what will happen with the fan base

Shwaz

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on January 04, 2011, 10:57:15 AM
I-10east imo we were lucky, hail marys, you do realize how many times a team in NFL history has won a game like that, 59yr field goals. If we have to win games like that and only be 8-8 then were in trouble.

Keith - both games were tied. Regardless of the winning plays we still had just as much of chance to win in overtime as the other teams.
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Shwaz

Quote from: hanjin1 on January 04, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Shwaz on January 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
I'm surprised to see how many fans put all the failures on the coach vs. the 6+ years of terrible drafting.

If we're 8-8 again next year it's because the team which was dismantled in 2009 isn't through being overhauled. It's obvious the team has glaring needs and that the positions filled thus far have been well chosen.  2 offseasons was clearly not enough to repair the damage done.

Everyone needs to step off the Del Rio ledge, temper their expectations, look forward to an exciting off season of drafting new talent and watching them grow.



I'm not on the del zero ledge, i'm just stating the facts, that wayne said if they don't make the playoffs next year that he would clean house. Can anyone in their right mind see us making the playoffs next year? i don't see how wayne is so sure of this. if he is telling the truth, then you might as well get rid of him right now. also i loved how he tried to defend rasheens play this year and stated that garrard was a top 12 qb in the league, by looking at his stats. i don't doubt garrard is an ok player, but they need to draft a qb and from what wayne was saying, it almost seems like they won't address the qb situation at all. if they don't draft a qb in the first couple rounds, oh geez i don't even know what will happen with the fan base

Why because of the schedule? Because of the coach? Because of the roster of players? Why are you counting them out 4 days into January?
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Keith-N-Jax

Del Rio has to take some of the blame, he is the coach isn't he? When your 4-11 in December drafting isn't the only issue. 65-64 over all I guess that's drafting also. Don't worry we wont be 8-8 next yr. Here's to looking at the east side of the stadium empty again. Del Rio is the only head coach in the NFL that's been with its team longer than 7 yrs with no division titles. I bet J.Fischer could take these same so called scrubs and have a number 2 or 3 defense. I don't blame the fans. At least WW stated he made some mistakes Del Zero was one of them.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Shwaz on January 04, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
I'm surprised to see how many fans put all the failures on the coach vs. the 6+ years of terrible drafting.

If we're 8-8 again next year it's because the team which was dismantled in 2009 isn't through being overhauled. It's obvious the team has glaring needs and that the positions filled thus far have been well chosen.  2 offseasons was clearly not enough to repair the damage done.

Everyone needs to step off the Del Rio ledge, temper their expectations, look forward to an exciting off season of drafting new talent and watching them grow.



I feel you man. I think the bad drafting is what did it. Our old GM left Del Rio and Gene Smith with a huge mess to clean up. But IMO Im not a fan of Del Rio's coaching style in general, and for that reason I would like to see him go. When I read he was doing the defensive play calling I was floored! Maybe that was part of our defense issues????? Also, everyone says garrad needs to be a leader. But how can you be a leader and you are not allowed to? If you havent notice, garrad does what he's told. They give him no authority AT ALL to make any decisions. Most teams give their QB some authority and trust their decisions. I think we have a host of problems, but I do think it boils down to Del Rio and his way of doing things. And I also feel Del Rio is soft and is not hard enough on them. IMO
Jaguars 2.0

Shwaz

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on January 04, 2011, 11:12:36 AM
Del Rio has to take some of the blame, he is the coach isn't he? When your 4-11 in December drafting isn't the only issue. 65-64 over all I guess that's drafting also. Don't worry we wont be 8-8 next yr. Here's to looking at the east side of the stadium empty again. Del Rio is the only head coach in the NFL that's been with its team longer than 7 yrs with no division titles. I bet J.Fischer could take these same so called scrubs and have a number 2 or 3 defense. I don't blame the fans. At least WW stated he made some mistakes Del Zero was one of them.

I'm sorry to see such a negative outlook... now it's an empty stadium. IF you are correct and the stadium is empty because the team isn't winning... then I will absolutely blame the fans. A team captain should know that.
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Keith-N-Jax

Quote from: Shwaz on January 04, 2011, 11:00:36 AM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on January 04, 2011, 10:57:15 AM
I-10east imo we were lucky, hail marys, you do realize how many times a team in NFL history has won a game like that, 59yr field goals. If we have to win games like that and only be 8-8 then were in trouble.

Keith - both games were tied. Regardless of the winning plays we still had just as much of chance to win in overtime as the other teams.

True, but we were lucky. Manning, and Houston's offense in OT- arent we lucky we had the ball last with our defense. That's all I am saying. I am not saying we shouldnt have won nor I am trying to take away anything from the win. Those were exciting/thrilling wins I would never want to take anything away from those two games!!