Latitude 30 at the Avenues!

Started by ProjectMaximus, December 08, 2010, 01:49:11 AM

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Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 15, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Great.  How much would that cost?

How much would it cost to widen Phillips Ave 2 more lanes?
Why would you do that when 95 runs parallel to it?

You might want to utilize the search feature on this website.  Commuter rail has been discussed many times. 

Kaiser Soze

Why would I want to do that?  I am asking about widening Phillips not commuter rail.

thelakelander

When we did the mobility plan project estimates in 2010, widening Philips to 6 lanes between University and I-95 (near Avenues Mall) came in a little over $54 million.  That stretch is 6.68 miles in length.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: thelakelander on March 15, 2012, 02:20:47 PM
When we did the mobility plan project estimates in 2010, widening Philips to 6 lanes between University and I-95 (near Avenues Mall) came in a little over $54 million.  That stretch is 6.68 miles in length.

I'm sure you have the numbers.  What would be a theoretical cost of an LRT starter line in the existing ROW along the same corridor?
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Kaiser Soze

Quote from: thelakelander on March 15, 2012, 02:20:47 PM
When we did the mobility plan project estimates in 2010, widening Philips to 6 lanes between University and I-95 (near Avenues Mall) came in a little over $54 million.  That stretch is 6.68 miles in length.
Thanks. 

tufsu1

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Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 15, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Great.  How much would that cost?

How much would it cost to widen Phillips Ave 2 more lanes?
Why would you do that when 95 runs parallel to it?

because both roads will be over capacity soon enough...so what mobility improvement(s) should we do...widen I-95, widen US 1, implement BRT, or build commuter rail?

as for NRW's question about light rail on US 1 from University to I-95....light rail costs nationally are running $25-$50 million per mile...so even at the low end, we're talking about more than $160 million

acme54321

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 15, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 15, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: Kaiser Soze on March 15, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Great.  How much would that cost?

How much would it cost to widen Phillips Ave 2 more lanes?
Why would you do that when 95 runs parallel to it?

Or turn Southside Blvd into a freeway!
because both roads will be over capacity soon enough...so what mobility improvement(s) should we do...widen I-95, widen US 1, implement BRT, or build commuter rail?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 15, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
as for NRW's question about light rail on US 1 from University to I-95....light rail costs nationally are running $25-$50 million per mile...so even at the low end, we're talking about more than $160 million

So we save $100M this year, but in 8-10 years when it's time to add more lanes to Phillips, 95, etc.  How much would it cost to increase capacity along a LRT corridor?
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Kaiser Soze

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 15, 2012, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 15, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
as for NRW's question about light rail on US 1 from University to I-95....light rail costs nationally are running $25-$50 million per mile...so even at the low end, we're talking about more than $160 million

So we save $100M this year, but in 8-10 years when it's time to add more lanes to Phillips, 95, etc.  How much would it cost to increase capacity along a LRT corridor?
That's assuming LRT is used.

thelakelander

The FEC is a freight rail corridor so commuter rail would have to implemented eventually instead of LRT.  Also, statistical data associated with the mobility plan indicated that both rail and roadway widening improvements (in a few sections) will be needed over the next 20 years.  Kaiser Soze, data and fiscal numbers also indicate that we can't solve our mobility issues by only focusing on roadway widening projects.  They are the most expensive and unsustainable investment we can make and they breed more congestion in the long run.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali