Inside The Claude Nolan Cadillac Building

Started by Metro Jacksonville, November 24, 2010, 03:26:14 AM

acme54321

Quote from: finehoe on November 24, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Any clues as to what the original exterior color scheme was?

From the Black and White it looks like the main bricks were the dark reddy brown with tan accent bricks/terra cotta.

Captain Zissou

I would love to do something with this building, and the creek, but I don't quite have the resources.  In ten years, she's mine!

duvaldude08

Being that Claude-Nolan is still around, it is sad they that didnt keep that building and restore it to its original use. I hate to see building like that just sit and rot. so sad. I think they had their 100 year celebration a few years back. It would have been cool to have the celebration there, if they still owned the building.
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ChriswUfGator

Quote from: duvaldude08 on November 24, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
Being that Claude-Nolan is still around, it is sad they that didnt keep that building and restore it to its original use. I hate to see building like that just sit and rot. so sad. I think they had their 100 year celebration a few years back. It would have been cool to have the celebration there, if they still owned the building.

As time went by, Springfield wasn't a place you'd sell many brand new luxury cars.

The dealership couldn't have stayed there, it wasn't economically possible. They had to have customers.


wsansewjs

Seriously,

CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, DON'T YOU F***ING DARE TOUCH THIS PROPERTY (Demolition, Condemnation, Bureaucratic Rubbish, or any reason).

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

wsansewjs

I barely know what SPAR is. Based what I have lurked around the boards here, it seems that SPAR is an evil organization.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: wsansewjs on November 24, 2010, 11:03:28 AM
I barely know what SPAR is. Based what I have lurked around the boards here, it seems that SPAR is an evil organization.

-Josh

Yeah, that pretty much nails it. In most other cities it takes an earthquake to demolish as much as SPAR did here.


menace1069

From what I understand, in the lobby just through the front doors is the Cadillac logo still inlaid into the concrete floor.  It may have been painted over since CNC left that building, but the logo was actually inlaid into the concrete floor.
I could be wrong about that...it's been known to happen.

duvaldude08

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Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 24, 2010, 10:57:39 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on November 24, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
Being that Claude-Nolan is still around, it is sad they that didnt keep that building and restore it to its original use. I hate to see building like that just sit and rot. so sad. I think they had their 100 year celebration a few years back. It would have been cool to have the celebration there, if they still owned the building.

As time went by, Springfield wasn't a place you'd sell many brand new luxury cars.

The dealership couldn't have stayed there, it wasn't economically possible. They had to have customers.

I am saying they had to sell cars, not by any means. But with a little thinking outside the box about how it could have been put to use. For example, maybe a vintage cadillac museum.??Those awesome show rooms could have displayed the most adored cadallics through out history, and it could also inlcude the history of Nolan Cadillac. On top of that, they could have hosted car shows, etc.

If I were a business owner, I could not see me letting go of my history like that. That is where everything started. So for them to sell the building, I guess they dont really didnt think outside the box as far how it could be put to use.
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mbstout

I've always loved this building and can't believe that no one with the financial resources has developed this into artist lofts.  Reminds me of my place in Brooklyn:
http://athousandpiecesofme.com/248studiorental.html

They could go either way with this building and make it into nice condos or more raw artists spaces.  Didn't I see in some proposal that the city plans to raze this building (and Park View) to expand Confederate Park across the creek?  Such a lack of vision.  Why get rid of such solid infrastructure and historic details when it can be repurposed into something beautiful that generates money for the city.  It faces a canal and a park for cryin' out loud!

duvaldude08

Quote from: mbstout on November 24, 2010, 02:25:05 PM
I've always loved this building and can't believe that no one with the financial resources has developed this into artist lofts.  Reminds me of my place in Brooklyn:
http://athousandpiecesofme.com/248studiorental.html

They could go either way with this building and make it into nice condos or more raw artists spaces.  Didn't I see in some proposal that the city plans to raze this building (and Park View) to expand Confederate Park across the creek?  Such a lack of vision.  Why get rid of such solid infrastructure and historic details when it can be repurposed into something beautiful that generates money for the city.  It faces a canal and a park for cryin' out loud!

My point exactly. Sometimes I think we have more vision than the city leaders...... I hate that I have great ideas but dont have the resources to make them happen... Hopefully one day I will.
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billy

are there environmental issues with the building?
in response to earlier inquiries I think there are bow string trusses in part of the addition

I saw the proposed park/creek study that showed this wonderful building removed
I mean really.....

CityLife

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Quote from: billy on November 24, 2010, 02:49:53 PM
are there environmental issues with the building?
in response to earlier inquiries I think there are bow string trusses in part of the addition

I saw the proposed park/creek study that showed this wonderful building removed
I mean really.....

Are you talking about the Hogan's Creek Greenway plan that HDR did? If so, it is absolutely not removed.

I've been in the building a couple times and it is fantastic. It is in very good shape compared to a few other warehouses type buildings I've been in. The potential is also through the roof, as you can adapt the interior spaces for a million different uses.

I know the owners have some interesting ideas for the building and will be sharing them at a public meeting hosted by.....gasp....wait for it.....gasp....SPAR... ;)

The meeting will be held at City Kidz Special Events Center at 3rd and Main on December 6th at 6PM.

KuroiKetsunoHana

Quote from: CityLife on November 24, 2010, 03:01:24 PM
I know the owners have some interesting ideas for the building and will be sharing them at a public meeting hosted by.....gasp....wait for it.....gasp....SPAR... ;)

lately SPAR seems to've become an interesting little creature.  some ov the new blood wants to change things, hell, i think some ov the old blood may want to change things, and it almost seems to be working at cross purposes with itself.  we can no longer rely on SPAR for consistent villainy, which is awesome except that we certainly can't rely on it for consistently good works either.

tl;dr version:  the times, they are a-changin'.
天の下の慈悲はありません。

sheclown

SPAR backs the development of the Claude Nolan/Park View Inn project.  It is a great idea and will be very exciting for the neighborhood.  Go to the meeting at City Kidz for more info!