Bus Shelter Advertising Debate headed to City Council

[BridgeTroll]

If solar power can power a bus stop in San Fran... I imagine they could power a whole city block in Jacksonville!

[CS Foltz]

I would be much more happy with buss stops that do not impede traffic flow for cars! Most of the stops in my world have no pull off area for the passengers to enter or leave. To say this stops traffic flow is blunt and direct!The City could do much better. If they are planning to expand Bay Meadows, which they are at some point, I would bet money that has not been taken into consideration since the norm for the City appears to be a lack of vision....planning and economical use of our money!

[Lunican]

Councilman Michael Corrigan: “I do not support Councilmember Jones’s Bus Shelter Bill. I further commit to help my fellow Councilmembers understand the potential broad damage of allowing advertising on bus shelters.”

Councilman Bill Bishop: “Please be assured that I will vote “NO” on legislation that would allow advertising on bus shelters. Please also note that I am a co-sponsor of Council Member Criscimbeni’s bill to explicity state that advertising be prohibited from bus shelters.”

http://www.riversideavondale.org/index.php?id=84

[BridgeTroll]

Unreal... no explanation... just... NO!

[JeffreyS]

Having sign on locations the city deems appropriate with content they review and approve and zoning out many areas seems like an easy compromise.

[Dog Walker]

No, no!  I want ads like the one's Ock posted above!

[urbanlibertarian]

Why not let each district council person decide what goes in their district?  Why would constituents in the rest of the city care about bus stop shelters and advertising in the neighborhoods where people actually ride the bus?

[thelakelander]

Riverside should just opt out of it.  If they want bus shelters, they can raise the money for the structures in their district on their own.  No need to penalize the whole community.  As a matter of fact, maybe JTA should just not agree to put them in historic districts, thus eliminating Riverside/Avondale and Springfield from the discussion.

[mtraininjax]

In Riverside, I'd personally like to see scantily clad women advertising for the Gold Club, Wackos or any of the "classy" showbars in Jax. Half-neked babes in Riverside would be a plus for me!

[CS Foltz]

Bus Shelters could be designed to integrate within tasteful boundaries. JTA needs to think out of the box and then some.............I am more concerned with having bus's stop in the middle of the road to do their passenger thing and holding up traffic than I am with a covered stop for people waiting to ride the bus! That won't be corrected either! Are there more important things to concern ourselves with?

[Dog Walker]

Let's see.  You are in the middle of a commercial district.  All around you are signs for the businesses and posters in their windows and on the light posts.  You're going to worry about a couple of signs on a bus shelter?   Givitabreak!

[CS Foltz]

I just love it when some on the Council says "NO" and can not explain their position. I have not heard yet what Mr Meserve has to say about it...........looking forward to that I am!

[JeffreyS]

It is fear mongering politics. They know a reasonable strategy exists area exemption, local approval or zoning ect. To give a reasonable response gets their voters to say ok good job but not very impressed or memorable.  However if said politician has saved their neighborhood from posters covering their area with a minority dressed as a stripper, smoking Newport's and drinking Courvoisier you just have to reelect that crusader.

[CS Foltz]

I don't understand the problem............Design two models.....one for historic area, one for general public,use City Engineers to design,City workers to assemble and install..........end of problem! No advertising unless Districts give green light through voter referendum for their District! End of problem.......what is so flipping hard?

[Steve]

I don't understand the problem............Design two models.....one for historic area, one for general public,use City Engineers to design,City workers to assemble and install..........end of problem! No advertising unless Districts give green light through voter referendum for their District! End of problem.......what is so flipping hard?

It's a little more complicated than that (isn't that always the case?).  The shelters would be installed for free by a private company (someone like a JCDecaux, Clear Channel, or Lamar).  They are the ones installing the shelters, not the city.

I get RAP's position.  I don't want this killed for the community, but in talking to some folks earlier this week, ther were rumors that the Historic Districts would be able to opt out of it.  If that is the case, then that's probably the best thing for RAP to do.

Remember, if they don't, and they put something non-historic looking in a street, it could cause a precedence issue (the bus shelters are there, so let's put ________ in on Post St.).  As the legislation is written, it is not really written with historic districts in mind.  My guess is that is a major reason why Corrigan is not for this.