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Started by Keith-N-Jax, September 20, 2009, 05:42:52 PM

fsujax

The game was not good yesterday. I went and was really disappointed. I couldn't believe the Jags looked so bad. Win or lose I will support them. Maybe they should change their colors to orange and blue and then people in Jax may support them.

jbroadglide

Just to put a little perspective on this, the team last year with THE BEST record in all of the NFL, the team who had home field advantage thoughout the playoffs..is today oh and 2. I'm talking about the Tennesee Titans. Two other teams that went deep into the playoffs several years ago...are both oh and 2 today. Look at the Rams and the Panthers. Of course the Lions are oh and 2, so nothing different there..but that also makes them oh and 18 over the past two seasons, so we are far from that. Yes the Jags were absolutely blown out of the stadium sunday. But I'd love to be reading the newspapers in Tennessee today. In fact I probably will later.
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copperfiend

I think I would feel much better about this team if we had a young QB like Flacco, Ryan or Sanchez. Garrard is decent but not worth the 60 million he is being paid.

RiversideLoki

So the game was blacked out and guess what I did? I watched Tennessee and Atlanta. Big whoop. If the Jags can't produce results, then football fans will go elsewhere. I know it's sad to say, but Jacksonville really does have "fair-weather fans". It's not that they're just plain bad. It's that they haven't earned the love and respect of their city or their fans enough to make it worth me having to choose weather I want to buy groceries this week or go to the game.

I agree with the sentiment that Jax has a lot to be embarrassed about. But look at it this way, I'm still a Detroit Lions fan. You think I care about wins? No, I care about good games. Yesterday, from everyone I talked to who went to the game (who was crying in their beer later that evening) said the game was horrible.

No one wants to pay a horrible ticket price for a horrible team.

A) Dump Del Rio. Seriously.
B) Draft Tebow (like he would seriously consider playing for Jax? Really?)
C) Gerrard is getting long in the tooth.
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Shwaz

The "I'm not going until the team is good" argument is getting old. The product is the NFL game day experience... you don't deserve anything more than that. So many critical comments on the cost of the game and how Weaver should drop the prices to nothing because nothing should be sacrificed. If you want something bad enough you sacrifice. You save. You skip your vacation this year. You don't go blow all your money on Jager Bombs. You save a little buy your tickets and watch your godam team lose and you take it like a godam man. I have blisters on my forehead from the sun, no voice from screaming at the refs but I wouldn't have been anywhere else yesterday.







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copperfiend

For anybody who thinks Tebow is the answer. Did you watch him against Tennessee? Monte Kiffin was a great NFL defensive coordinator and he shut down that offense. Tebow looked like nothing more than Garrard 2.0 on Saturday. The team needs a pocket passer.

Keith-N-Jax

City and resident here full of this and that. I dont have a money tree in my back yard either. You know there are Jags jersey with 15/Tebow on them. This is sad because people are so caught up with the gators their blind.I doubt Tebow will make it in the NFL as a pro QB.

RiversideLoki

Quote from: Shwaz on September 21, 2009, 10:31:51 AM
You don't go blow all your money on Jager Bombs.

That's crazy-talk Shwaz. I can't comprehend that sentence.  ;D
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copperfiend

Watch Jake Locker, the quarterback from Washington. He can run and was slinging the ball downfield against USC.

Ron Mexico

As I was sitting at the game on Sunday I searched "LA expansion NFL" in Google and there were many stories about LA not wanting a team, other cities like San Antonio, Portland, Orlando getting teams.  Let's not lose sight of the fact that every city in the US is hurting for money and building or upgrading a stadium is not high on the list of priorities. 

I for one am tired of the discussion.  LA had a chance at a team and the NFL gave it to Houston instead.  Miami has had PLAYOFF games blacked out.  Minnesota, Oakland, Cincinnati, San Diego, Detroit and Tampa are all having ticket problems

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-08-31-nfl-tickets_N.htm#forecast

I think it is about time that the NFL start caring about the fans because for so many years they didn't.  Stadiums were ronvated to have more luxury seats at the expense of lower priced "true fan" seats and they didn't bat an eye.

Having the mayor get on TV and implore us to buy tix is rather funny given that he is already trying to take more of our disposable income away to pay for unneeded appointees and pet projects.  The Jags need to put a quality product on the field.  When any company makes a crap product and no one buys it, they don't go on TV or in the paper and say, "We know we suck, but you should feel lucky that we even have a store here and you should buy our crap out of a sense of duty".

We haven't drafted a QB in over 6 years, while both the Pats and Colts have drafted 6 between them both.  No one was worried about Manning or Brady getting benched, they were just running an effective organization and planning for the unexpected.  We on the other hand pass on Roethlisberger for Reggie Williams followed by Matt Jones and a host of other no names.

And the local media gets part of the blame.  Bitching about Mark Brunnell in favor of Byron Leftwich only to have him suck something awful.  Then bitch about Leftwich in favor of Garrard.  I don't know if the jury is still out on Garrard or not, but I don't watch him play and sense that he has the skill set to win.  After all, he has a worse record than Leftwich as a started with the Jags, so you tell me.

Of course I am pissed as I type this because I want the Jags to do well.  I wouldn't have season tix if I didn't support them, but at the same time I want to see the organization do the things necessary to make us proud and excited.  Simply having a team is not reason enough.

If we lived in Wisconsin and had nothing to do but eat cheese and watch the Packers, then yes I would support that argument.  But if I was on the bubble about tix and times were tough, I would rather go to the beach for the cost of half a tank of gas than sweat my ass off to watch 3 consecutive false starts and a blocked field goal returned for a TD.
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Keith-N-Jax

Yes drafting has been bad over the yrs. I think they have recognized that now.

DavidWilliams

I know that Del Rio has been given this year as "rebuilding" mode (on top of the fat contract he got not too long ago). Listening to the sports pundits today, I am starting to agree a bit that perhaps he shouldn't stay much longer. One playoff win in seven years? That's a long time in today's NFL. Not good. He has had a revolving door of coordinators/assistants over that time and still the same product. Those in the "know" say it would be disastrous to fire him during the season (especially early in the season) but, with the current fan climate (ie disastrous ticket sales) it would be interesting to see if they could bring in a proven commodity like Cowher. I think he will resurface somewhere. By all accounts, yesterday was a low point in team history. About 10,000 asses in the seats in the second half for what was once an NFL hungry city.


Coolyfett

QuoteThe "I'm not going until the team is good" argument is getting old. The product is the NFL game day experience... you don't deserve anything more than that. So many critical comments on the cost of the game and how Weaver should drop the prices to nothing because nothing should be sacrificed. If you want something bad enough you sacrifice. You save. You skip your vacation this year. You don't go blow all your money on Jager Bombs. You save a little buy your tickets and watch your godam team lose and you take it like a godam man. I have blisters on my forehead from the sun, no voice from screaming at the refs but I wouldn't have been anywhere else yesterday.

This kid gets it!!

I am happy the Jaguars got beat yesterday for a few reasons. Jacksonville needs to feel the pain of being a loser. Jacksonville tricked the NFL into thinking that Jacksonville has many NFL fans, but the truth is, it has a lot of Gator FOOTBALL fans. The People of Jacksonville are not NFL fans and that is what the Jaguars represent, NFL football. People saying they do not want to pay for bad product?? That is the dumbest thing every said. It is NFL FOOTBALL. You are a fan of the teal and black, a fan of that cat with the teal tongue, that is what Jacksonville should be proud of and support. So people are saying if the wins are not guaranteed they will not support?? WOW!!!It is NFL Football country bunkers, Ed Austin and crew said that Jacksonville was ready to play.....play forever? or just 1995? You people have no sense of the big picture. A win feels GREAT, when you know how it feels to lose. Short sighted nonsense about not supporting the team because you are not interested in Arizona Cardinals or because there is a chance they may lose. So Jacksonville wants guaranteed wins huh? LAME! The Season Opener, and the city can not get up for it? They can lose 62 to 7, it is still the opener. It looks bad man. Really bad, a lose is ok, but empty seats goes a very long way. Says a lot about Jacksonville sports fans, who are not really sports fans, but spoiled Gator Football fans with a small minded country boy thought process.

"If the win ain't guaranteed dog gone it I ain't going" 

It needs to said man. Jacksonville citizens really need to see the big picture. It is the citizens fault the Jaguars lost like they did yesterday. It is not like Jacksonville was at the game. I don't care how much I am being payed, if the people that are SUPPOSED to support me don't support me, it is going to hurt and I am not going to perform well. It is human nature and those dudes are not programmed robots. Every time the there is a Blackout I hope the Jaguars lose and lose BADLY, so Jacksonville can be familiar with that bitter taste. Many of them expect way too much, many don't understand that the Jags are in the AFC South and not the SEC, and many are flip flopping bandwagon fans. 16 games a week, every week 16 teams lose. The modern day NFL is only 45 years old.  32 teams, 15 have never won anything, 5 have never been to the big dance. Jacksonville is in the 15 club and the 5 club. If you do not have the patience to love the team that represents the city in which you live ,BUT you claim you are an NFL fan the Browns and the Lions say you need to grow a pair.

And if you really want to wine, hey the Jacksonville Suns won their 5th Championship in 47 years!! So it ain't all that bad in Jax country bunkers.

Think Big Jax and not temp thinkers. One day YOU PEOPLE will get it.
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DavidWilliams

I know...I know...blah...blah...only those from the Northeast are true NFL fans. Jax is just a hick town that is only interested in college (we don't have the "pedigree")...heard it all...disagree with it all. Pretty smart fan base here in some areas. Not so patient at times I suppose.

Keith-N-Jax

Stands are just as empty for a Suns game regardless of their record. Hockey team didn't get support either. I hope no one thinks the Jax people are riding and hour and half to see their beloved Gators. No there right at home on the couch. Coolyfett you made some good points. There's no denying Jags need to compete and play better. Saying you'd rather be here and there because they suck = bandwagoners/fairweather. First signs the boat starts taking on water they jump ship. Way too many of these in this cities way too many.