Old Barnett building downtown?

[coredumped]

Does anyone know what's happening with the old Barnett building? Someone mentioned it in the construction update thread but I thought it deserved it's own thread and I didn't want to hijack. It is the coolest building downtown!

[downtownjag]

still looking for a buyer...

[buckethead]

What is the price?

This should be MetroJax headquarters and member residence. The first labour of love for our yet to be formed co-op/urban renewal PAC/not for profit restoration & refurbishing organization.

[braeburn]

$6.5 million. Fantastic building and location. Tough sale unless someone has ca$h.

[buckethead]

As a not for profit urban renwal project could we not apply for federal stimulus money?

It's "shovel ready". Why should AIG and BOA get our grandchildrens money?

[braeburn]

I guess you could apply and hold your breath 

Each floor in that building has been stripped down to its bare shell.

[vicupstate]

Anyone know the square footage of this building? 

I wonder if Mike Langton could take this on?  How is his company holding up in this economy?

[buckethead]

I guess you could apply and hold your breath 

Each floor in that building has been stripped down to its bare shell.

That is a huge plus.

The ceilings on the first floor, which are amazing, were intact when I last looked in at the beginning of this year.

With the building being a blank slate, for the most part, demolition costs have already been assumed.

Fire supression, plumbing, HVAC, electrical, low voltage, along with walls and isulation and you moving right along.

[buckethead]

http://apps.coj.net/PAO_PropertySearch/Basic/Detail.aspx?RE=0737420000

Year Built 1923

Type Gross Area Heated Area
Unfinished Basement 2653 0
Base Area 2653 2653
Unfinished Basement 5145 0
Base Area 5145 5145
Finished upper story 17 87465 87465
Unfinished Basement 75 0
Canopy 75 0
Finished upper story 17 1275 1275
Unfinished Basement 1662 0
Base Area 1662 1662
Finished upper story 17 28254 28254
Unfinished Storage 1662 0
Unfinished Basement 325 0
Base Area 325 325
Finished upper story 17 5525 5525
Unfinished Basement 1375 0
Base Area 1375 1375
Finished upper story 17 23375 23375
Unfinished Storage 1375 0
Total 171401 157054
Element Code Detail
Exterior Wall 20 20 Face Brick
Roofing Structure 10 10 Steel Frame/Truss
Roofing Cover 4 4 Built Up or T & G
Interior Wall 5 5 Drywall
Int Flooring 14 14 Carpet
Heating Fuel 4 4 Electric
Heating Type 4 4 Forced-Ducted
Air Conditioning 4 4 Packaged Unit
Ceiling Wall Finish 5 5 S Ceil Wall Fin
Comm Htg & AC 1 1 Htg & A/C Pkg
Comm Frame 3 3 C-Masonry



Element Code  
Stories 18.000 
Restrooms 54.000 
Baths 181.000 
Rooms / Units 245.000 
Avg Story Height 11.000 
Traversing Data

At 154,000 sq ft selling for 6.5 million, it is a cost of about $42 per sq ft.

Depending on structural conditions, it would likely cost 50-100 dollars per square foot to get space updated and into sellable/rentable contition. Those costs could be much higher. I have only done single family homes and wood framed or CMU commercial buildings in the past, so my experience here is negligible.

I would see a need to be able to resell at under $150 per sq ft in order to compete with suburban track homes, unless they were to be luxury condos. (Downtown Market already saturated?) There will be only about 135,000 sq ft of living or office space. Halls, stairs, elevators and lobbies will take up a bit.

I am not an estimater but IMO the price needs to be lower.

[Ocklawaha]

The Dallas Texas "Interurban Building." Today it is called Interurban Lofts.

What is the price?

This should be MetroJax headquarters and member residence. The first labour of love for our yet to be formed co-op/urban renewal PAC/not for profit restoration & refurbishing organization.

Wow, what an idea! Big NEON on top reading MetroJacksonville.com. Somewhere on the lower level, another neon sign saying, "GO BY STREETCAR", with the Jacksonville Traction Company logo. That building would be killer cool as a downtown station for JTCO. Such a "station" would be in the mold of thousands of early streetcar HQ and "station/office" buildings.

OCKLAWAHA

[coredumped]

Someone should at least close the windows! Won't it rot the insides if rain gets in there?

[heights unknown]

So they are seriously considering demolishing (destroying) this magnificent piece of Jacksonville history and artifact?  They'd better not! If they do, they'd better put something tremendous in its spot because it will create a huge and noticeable hole and void in the skyline!

Heights Unknown

[Ocklawaha]

So they are seriously considering demolishing (destroying) this magnificent piece of Jacksonville history and artifact?  They'd better not! If they do, they'd better put something tremendous in its spot because it will create a huge and noticeable hole and void in the skyline!

Heights Unknown

Heights, Hey my man, I haven't heard of any plans to knock it down, but if they do, Ocklawaha and the urban adventurers are going to have a field day entering the old tunnel system underneath. I think the tunnels would make for a surreal and fantastic tourist and night spot. "THE MAZE AT JACKSONVILLE!"

I would think with the Courthouse finally going up, the spillover effect will cause quite a few revived projects, including the Barnett.

OCKLAWAHA

[thelakelander]

The Dallas Texas "Interurban Building." Today it is called Interurban Lofts.

Looks familiar.  Metro Jacksonville has been here before.  Here are a few images, from 2006, of the building and it's grocery market at street level.

[Seraphs]

Even as a kid I was in love with this building.  It's always been a favorite of mine.  I sincerely hope something useful and great comes of it.