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Jax Brewery

Started by creeksidebrewery, December 06, 2007, 11:09:41 AM

creeksidebrewery

Quote from: Traveller on December 07, 2007, 09:20:29 AM
I always thought the ground floor of the Churchwell Lofts on E. Bay Street at S. Market Street would be a perfect place for a pub/restaurant/sports bar, especially if you can get some residents upstairs.  Not sure if it would have the vertical clearance you need for brewing, though.  Anyone know if something is planned for that space?

Also, why did the Preservation Chophouse close so quickly?  It was barely open a year.


From what i understand, they were losing too much money. Good news though if you are a riverside / avondale resident is that Crush is being reopened by the owners of CHEW and is expected to be more 'price' friendly.

thelakelander

Here's a few from Loopnet.com

Downtown

20 West Adams (Big Deal Realty)
20 West Adams Street
lease rate: $13/sf
square footage: 6,000sf
Rob Lester: 904.759.7306

Seminole Club (Petra Management)
400 N. Hogan Street
lease rate: $18/sf
square footage: 20,000sf
Rich Trendel 904.241.1151

City Place (TransGlobal Realty)
311 W. Ashley Street
lease rate: $8/sf
square footage: 6,000
Eric Nathanson - 904.735.4000

45 W. Bay Street (Colliers International)
lease rate: $14/sf
square footage: 2,200sf
Matt Entriken: 904.358.1206

Springfield

Old Boomtown-Springfield (The Cordell Group)
1714 Main Street
lease rate: $13/sf
square footage: 7,200sf
Cordell Butler - 904.465.1000

Five Points

5 Points theatre
1028 Park Street
lease rate: $16.84
square footage: 9,500sf
Kate Clifford - 904.242.2828

San Marco

San Marco Railway Station
1440 Hendricks Avenue
lease rates: $25 to $34/sf
sqaure footage: 4,300sf
Jonathan Daugherty - 904.866.6937

1406 Hendricks Avenue (Commercial Florida Realty)
lease rate: $25/sf
square footage: 7,650sf
Jeffrey Collins - 904.398.6111
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

downtownparks

I know that the Surfside Bldg in Springfield can be had at $5 a sq ft.

Creekside, I have emailed you already, but with your permission, I would love to set up a meeting with you and the Hionides Rep. That bldg has over 8000sq ft (I think up stairs and down is even more), and with the second story, would allow you to do the gravity feed that you want. Plus, with Main st being torn up, it would be great for you to try to coincide your opening with a brand new Main st.

creeksidebrewery

NICE. Thanks for being so helpful. Let me marinate on this over the weekend and I'll email you the beginning of next week. Thanks again.

Charleston native

Just a couple of questions, while we're on the subject of breweries. I noticed that Landshark Beer is made in Jax, and it is a product under Jimmy Buffett. Is this a local brewery and if anybody has tried the beer, how does it taste?

RiversideGator

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From what i understand, they were losing too much money. Good news though if you are a riverside / avondale resident is that Crush is being reopened by the owners of CHEW and is expected to be more 'price' friendly.

YES!  I hope this is true because I really miss Crush.  It was close to my house and had great country French food.  They always were pretty busy when I was in there so I was surprised to see them close.

As for Preservation Chophouse, I think they were trying too hard with the food and made it too complex.  For example, collard greens dont need to be au gratin with breading (the Preservation method).  Cook them with some great seasoning and they are simpler, cleaner, healthier and taste a lot better.  It just seemed to me that their food was overly complex and rich and they should have stuck with the basics more.  Just my opinion though.  The prices werent really bad there compared with comparable places.

downtownparks

CN, Landshark is made at the Budweiser plant, if I am not mistaken.

alohameisha

I never made it to Crush but I really like chew (the lunch menu items are my favorite sandwiches/salads). I'd love for it to be over there it is such a nice space. What happened with Crush it seemed to do so well? Does anyone know?

Quote from: RiversideGator on December 07, 2007, 03:33:48 PM
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From what i understand, they were losing too much money. Good news though if you are a riverside / avondale resident is that Crush is being reopened by the owners of CHEW and is expected to be more 'price' friendly.

YES!  I hope this is true because I really miss Crush.  It was close to my house and had great country French food.  They always were pretty busy when I was in there so I was surprised to see them close.

As for Preservation Chophouse, I think they were trying too hard with the food and made it too complex.  For example, collard greens dont need to be au gratin with breading (the Preservation method).  Cook them with some great seasoning and they are simpler, cleaner, healthier and taste a lot better.  It just seemed to me that their food was overly complex and rich and they should have stuck with the basics more.  Just my opinion though.  The prices werent really bad there compared with comparable places.

Charleston native

Thanks, DTP. I see that Landshark is basically a brew from Budweiser that Buffett endorsed for the company to market. That's disappointing, because I was starting to think that Buffett may have an interest in locating a Margaritaville location in Jax, plus providing a local brew. Oh well, I'll continue to dream.

creeksidebrewery

Quote from: Charleston native on December 10, 2007, 11:25:17 AM
Thanks, DTP. I see that Landshark is basically a brew from Budweiser that Buffett endorsed for the company to market. That's disappointing, because I was starting to think that Buffett may have an interest in locating a Margaritaville location in Jax, plus providing a local brew. Oh well, I'll continue to dream.


I believe the owner of Crush decided to open a sports bar, which we (riverside / avondale residents) know as Kickbacks.

creeksidebrewery

Quote from: creeksidebrewery on December 11, 2007, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: Charleston native on December 10, 2007, 11:25:17 AM
Thanks, DTP. I see that Landshark is basically a brew from Budweiser that Buffett endorsed for the company to market. That's disappointing, because I was starting to think that Buffett may have an interest in locating a Margaritaville location in Jax, plus providing a local brew. Oh well, I'll continue to dream.

Buffet probably endorsed it because Budweiser promised him more money than Corona as a sponsor for his tour and said they would produce a beer that appears to be from the 'Margaritaville Brewing Company...'

creeksidebrewery

Does anyone have any information on THE HAMBY BUILDING located @ 325 W. Forsyth St..

Who owns it?

Is it still for lease? if so, rate?


thelakelander

Here you go:



Petra Management

Lease rate: $12/SF/Year

Contact: Scott Allen - 904.219.6734


http://www.petramanagement.com/index.php?option=com_hotproperty&task=view&id=25&Itemid=2

Imagine, if DVI could supply you with this answer that fast..... ;)
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Jason

Quote from: Charleston native on December 10, 2007, 11:25:17 AM
Thanks, DTP. I see that Landshark is basically a brew from Budweiser that Buffett endorsed for the company to market. That's disappointing, because I was starting to think that Buffett may have an interest in locating a Margaritaville location in Jax, plus providing a local brew. Oh well, I'll continue to dream.


I had thought the same thing until I looked more into it.  The Margaritaville Brewing Company is Buffet's label and is in a cooperative agreement with Anheuser Busch (AB) to brew and distribute.  Makes a lot of sence if you want your recipe to span the country really quick.  I guess the brew could still break away from AB when/if the time is right but why stop a good thing?  I think the beer is great.  It is a bit smoother than Corona and drinks well with just about anything.  Assuming they stick around, I'm a customer for life simply because it tastes great an is a locally based company.  It costs about as much as the higher-end AB products (Bud Select, Michelobe, etc.).  AB is also distributing Buffet's liquor line as well.


I'd love to see more locally owned brewing companies popping up to give the big boys a run for their money.  Many of the microbrews around town are lacking in one area or another.  The best I've experienced in the area is A1A Aleworks in DT St. Augustine but the problem is that you can't pick up a six pack of their pale ale for a cookout at the house...

creeksidebrewery

If you have not been to Seven Bridges lately, you should give it a shot. The new brewmaster Eric is doing a really nice job with the 'special brews' which he is allowed to be creative with, outside of the 'corporate brews' where he has to stick to a given formula. He had a RYE IPA on tap last week which was exceptional.


Also, another problem we ran into with becoming a brew pub is you are not allowed, in the state of Florida to sell your beer outside of the restaurant (Bottles, Cans, Kegs, Growlers, etc...) that you can with a standard production only micro.