Offshore Oil Drilling and the Oil Rig Disaster in the Gulf

Started by RiversideGator, April 30, 2008, 01:14:37 AM

Do you support Oil Drilling off of Florida's First Coast?

Yes
No

samiam

Heights, A few of the industries that are connected to the oil rigs are oil rig building facility's, if they are planning to use jack up rigs, they are built on or close to shore and floated out to the well sight and sank to the sea bed. ship yards to build and maintain oil rig supply boats, shore facility's to fuel and berth support vessels, crews for support vessels, underwater welders for rig repair and crews for the oil rigs.

heights unknown

I asked that question to get a feel of what the impact would be on our local economy; it appears it would not directly affect Jacksonville in a "large impact" way.  I don't know much about pumping oil, oil rigs, oil pipelines, oil companies, etc.  I do know that if it will adversely affect our environment, we need to leave well enough alone; I don't care too much about the tourism aspect.

Heights Unknown
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stjr

FYI, according to Wikipedia, here is a sample of some of the HQ's for major oil companies operating in the U.S.:

Shell - Houston (parent Royal Dutch Shell is The Hague, Netherlands)
BP - London, England
Exxon-Mobile - Irving, TX
Concoco-Phillips - Houston
Anadarko Petroleum - Houston
Marathon - Houston
Chevron - San Ramon, CA
Occidental - Los Angeles
Hess - New York City
Sunoco - Philadelphia
Koch - Wichita, KS
Sinclair - Salt Lake City, UT

Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

tufsu1

the tourism aspect is pretty large...more so on the Gulf Coast (like Clearwater, Sarasota, and Naples) then here.

Answer this....how many people do you know that go to the beaches in Mississippi, Louisiana, or northern Texas?


heights unknown

Quote from: tufsu1 on April 23, 2009, 08:50:57 PM
the tourism aspect is pretty large...more so on the Gulf Coast (like Clearwater, Sarasota, and Naples) then here.

Answer this....how many people do you know that go to the beaches in Mississippi, Louisiana, or northern Texas?



More than you think...especially in the late spring, summer, and possibly early autumn months.

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heights unknown

Ocklawaha, is that your foot?  Not that I am a foot fetish but I think we really didn't need to see "funky feet" on the forum.

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Ocklawaha

Quote from: heights unknown on April 23, 2009, 09:28:09 PM
Ocklawaha, is that your foot?  Not that I am a foot fetish but I think we really didn't need to see "funky feet" on the forum.

Heights Unknown

Heck no, I think it belongs to one of the Beach Boys... Some California beach bum. But it does illustrate what the tar dropplets do to your feet or ??  your "Whatever". WARNING, DO NOT SKINNY DIP WHERE THE TAR FLOATS!

OCKLAWAHA

BridgeTroll

Here is an entire website about oil/gas/and tar seeps in California...

http://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/seeps/what.html

Pics of naturally occuring seeps...

http://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/seeps/environment.html
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tufsu1

Quote from: heights unknown on April 23, 2009, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 23, 2009, 08:50:57 PM
the tourism aspect is pretty large...more so on the Gulf Coast (like Clearwater, Sarasota, and Naples) then here.

Answer this....how many people do you know that go to the beaches in Mississippi, Louisiana, or northern Texas?



More than you think...especially in the late spring, summer, and possibly early autumn months.

Heights Unknown

really...tourists from other states flock to their beaches...how come I've never seen any promotion/advertising other than for the casinos in Mississippi?

Doctor_K

Quote from: tufsu1 on April 24, 2009, 07:54:50 AM
really...tourists from other states flock to their beaches...how come I've never seen any promotion/advertising other than for the casinos in Mississippi?
You live in Florida.  Advertising agencies are not going to target a beach-dwelling demographic in *Florida* to come to *their* beaches.  It's a waste of advertising dollars and energy.

However, if you go north, the situation changes.  I have family in Alabama who I see on a quasi-regular basis, and I see commercials for the Gulf Coast beaches in Mississippi and whatnot quite frequently.

Further, since there are more people livingin Texas than in Florida, my guess is that the answer to "how many people go to Texas beaches" is: "probably more than do here."

Florida probably gets more tourism dollars out of central Florida's theme parks than all the beaches combined anyway.  No, I don't have facts, but that'd be my guess and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was indeed the case.

LindaB said earlier that the limit was 3 leagues/10 miles.  Can you even see 10 miles out from the beach anyway?
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

civil42806

Quote from: Doctor_K on April 24, 2009, 08:47:41 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 24, 2009, 07:54:50 AM
really...tourists from other states flock to their beaches...how come I've never seen any promotion/advertising other than for the casinos in Mississippi?
You live in Florida.  Advertising agencies are not going to target a beach-dwelling demographic in *Florida* to come to *their* beaches.  It's a waste of advertising dollars and energy.

However, if you go north, the situation changes.  I have family in Alabama who I see on a quasi-regular basis, and I see commercials for the Gulf Coast beaches in Mississippi and whatnot quite frequently.

Further, since there are more people livingin Texas than in Florida, my guess is that the answer to "how many people go to Texas beaches" is: "probably more than do here."

Florida probably gets more tourism dollars out of central Florida's theme parks than all the beaches combined anyway.  No, I don't have facts, but that'd be my guess and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was indeed the case.

LindaB said earlier that the limit was 3 leagues/10 miles.  Can you even see 10 miles out from the beach anyway?

beaches in Biloxi/Gulfport are much better than jax beach.  You will see advertising for them as you head north and west.   I Go to Dauphin Island on occasion and on a very clear day you can see a couple of oil rigs way off shore.  Amazingly enough no ones heads are exploding and the tourists still flock there.  The real point here is that people who live on the beach don't want the visual pollution.  Same as the windfarm off nantuket island.  Let the little people deal with the ugly fact that power has to be generated in some way.

BridgeTroll

QuoteSame as the windfarm off nantuket island.

Isnt that the one Ted Kennedy killed? 
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Doctor_K

^ Yes.  The Governing Elite want green energy, just 'not in their backyard.'  Pathetic.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

BridgeTroll

The problem is people who actually have the nerve to advocate for oil drilling for American oil reserves get painted unfairly as anti green or alternative energy.  It simply is not true.  I... and everbody I know fully and heartily endorse research, development, and deployment of ALL energy sources and modes of transportation.  I / we understand however that these new systems simply cannot and do not compete YET with traditional energy sources.  The traditional resources MUST continue to be exploited until such time as the alternatives become a reliable AND economical replacement.

Conserve and Go green... I am behind it 100%.

In the meantime... Keep drilling. :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Doctor_K

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein