TAKE THE AMTRAK - JTA JACKSONVILLE SURVEY NOW!

Started by Ocklawaha, April 03, 2009, 10:25:12 PM

Check every route you would use, and every question you agree with, more information below...

ROUTE> The Tidewater Route: Jax-Savannah-Fayetteville-Suffolk-Portsmouth/Norfolk
13 (30.2%)
ROUTE> The Carolina Special Route: Jax-Savannah-Columbia-Charlotte-Washington-New York
27 (62.8%)
ROUTE> Silver Meteor Route: Jax-Savannah-Columbia-Raleigh-Richmond-Washington-New York
28 (65.1%)
ROUTE> Champion Route: Jax-Savannah-Fayetteville-Richmond-Washington-New york
20 (46.5%)
ROUTE> KCY-FL Special Route: Jax-Jessup-Hazelhurst-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Nashville-St. Louis-KCY
19 (44.2%)
ROUTE> Dixie Route: Jax-Waycross-Fitzgerald-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Nashville-Louisville-Chicago
24 (55.8%)
ROUTE> Royal Palm Route: Jax-Valdosta-Cordelle-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Knoxville-Cincinnati-Chicago/Detriot/Cleveland
21 (48.8%)
ROUTE> City of Miami Route: Jax-Valdosta-Albany- Columbus-Birmingham-Memphis-St.Louis/Chicago
13 (30.2%)
ROUTE> South Wind Route: Jax-Waycross-Valdosta-Dothan-Montgomery-Birmingham-Nashville-Louisville-Chicago
12 (27.9%)
ROUTE> Gulf Wind Route: Jax-Tallahassee-Pensacola-Mobile-Biloxi-New Orleans-(Los Angeles)
31 (72.1%)
ROUTE> The Gulf Coast Special Route: Jax-Baldwin-Starke-Alachua-Gainesville
17 (39.5%)
ROUTE> West Coast Champion Route: Jax-Palatka-Orlando-Lakeland-Tampa-Clearwater-St. Pete
22 (51.2%)
ROUTE> The Meteor Route: Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Auburndale-Winter Haven-Sebring-West Palm-Miami
16 (37.2%)
ROUTE> The Sunniland Route> Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Lakeland-Arcadia-Ft. Myers-Naples
9 (20.9%)
ROUTE> The Palmland Route: Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Lakeland-Tampa-Sarasota-Venice
11 (25.6%)
ROUTE> East Coast Champion Route: Jax-Palatka-Orlando-Auburndale-Winter Haven-Sebring-West Palm-Miami
19 (44.2%)
ROUTE> H. M. Flagler Route: Jax-St. Augustine-Daytona Beach-Melbourne-Ft. Pierce-West Palm-Miami
37 (86%)
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0 (0%)
I'd Prefer to catch the train at the current Amtrak Station
1 (2.3%)
I'd prefer to catch the train at the Jacksonville Terminal Downtown
46 (107%)
I'd prefer to catch the train in South Jacksonville
9 (20.9%)
I'd prefer to catch the train in Baldwin
2 (4.7%)
I'd prefer to catch the train in Orange Park/Yukon
10 (23.3%)
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0 (0%)
All schedules should be Southbound in the AM and Northbound in the PM
3 (7%)
All schedules should run in both directions throughout the daylight hours
11 (25.6%)
All schedules should run in both directions both daylight and overnight
33 (76.7%)
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0 (0%)
JTC>I like the JTA Jacksonville Transportation Center just like it is planned
6 (14%)
JTC>I would like to see the Convention Center moved and a more condensed Transporation Center built
35 (81.4%)
JTC>If the Convention Center can't be moved, we should redesign the Transportation Center for more compactness
15 (34.9%)
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0 (0%)
INTERFACE> JTA should hub city buses, BRT and Express Bus services to meet Amtrak trains
29 (67.4%)
INTERFACE> JTA Should expand the Skyway Downtown to better distribute the passengers from the trains
29 (67.4%)
INTERFACE> JTA should run much longer hours, even 24/7 on main trunk routes as soon as the trains start rolling
22 (51.2%)
INTERFACE> I believe JTA's Commuter Rail and Streetcar lines will benefit from the groundwork provided by Amtrak and Regional Rail
43 (100%)
INTERFACE> I don't think Amtrak will mean a thing to JTA ridership, even if we become a major hub again.
2 (4.7%)
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0 (0%)
TERMINAL PLANS> JTA/FDOT plan 3 tracks at our downtown station, I think that's more then enough
3 (7%)
TERMINAL PLANS> JTA and FDOT plan 3 tracks at our station, I feel it is wholly inadequate
12 (27.9%)
TERMINAL PLANS> JTA and FDOT plan 3 tracks at our station and I fear they foolishly plan to give the hub to Orlando or Sanford
22 (51.2%)
TERMINAL PLANS> I believe a complete Railroad Terminal with all of the sundry support is a requirement in Jacksonville
28 (65.1%)
TERMINAL PLANS> I think Jacksonville and JTA should be at the forefront of the efforts to improve rail services in NE Florida and South Georgia
41 (95.3%)
TERMINAL PLANS> I would support the idea of a multi-city/multi-state coalition led by Jacksonville to push rail passenger service
35 (81.4%)
TERMINAL PLANS> Should TheLakelander and Ocklawaha be appointed to lead the Jacksonville Rail Task Force?
33 (76.7%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Voting closed: April 12, 2009, 11:19:56 PM

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Ocklawaha

April 03, 2009, 10:25:12 PM Last Edit: April 03, 2009, 10:28:18 PM by Ocklawaha
Ride or Fly - The Choice is Yours Jacksonville:

THE MOTHER OF ALL AMTRAK - FDOT - JTA SURVEYS

Cast your votes up to 42 times, marking everything you fully agree with.

...and YOU thought we needed High Speed Rail? ...and this is alongside Roosevelt!

Section ONE:

ROUTES> Of 17 possible rail routes with a Jacksonville hub, which ones would you likely use. Check as many as apply.

I'd prefer to catch the train > at: Come on and give us your REAL choice or choices.

All Schedules> For over 100 years Florida has had a very strange and unique railroad passenger traffic pattern, what do YOU think it should be?

JTC> Transportation Center JTA has a plan, it's been in these pages more then once, take a look and see what you think?

Interface with Amtrak> JTA has bus and Skyway, with plans for Commuter Rail and Streetcars, how should we plan this operation? Check as many as apply.

TERMINAL Plans> Do you think FDOT is selling Jacksonville short on the rail terminal or is it doing a great job? And what about those other little details?

Thank you for spending the time to work through this, we'll be sharing it and the comments with AMTRAK, JTA, FDOT and GADOT, as long as we get enough feedback...

Down the FEC in other times...
Or let er rip on the Norfolk Southern back in the day...
Call her what you will, but on the Seaboard THIS is a Solarium Lounge.

FEEL FREE TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE ABOVE SUBJECTS.

OCKLAWAHA

Ocklawaha

#1
April 04, 2009, 02:13:45 PM
I realize this is the weekend but out of some 42 views we've only got 9 votes... We've got to do better IF you want to see our train station reopen.

OCKLAWAHA

fatcat

#2
April 04, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
done. and I voted you to lead the task force. Make sure you serve drinkable coffee at the stations. ;) When I used to live in MA, I loved the express train to NY or NJ. Much more comfortable, less hassle, less expensive and plenty of real food and drink.

BridgeTroll

#3
April 04, 2009, 04:20:38 PM
I voted but it is a pretty huge survey... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Ocklawaha

#4
April 04, 2009, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: fatcat on April 04, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
done. and I voted you to lead the task force. Make sure you serve drinkable coffee at the stations. ;) When I used to live in MA, I loved the express train to NY or NJ. Much more comfortable, less hassle, less expensive and plenty of real food and drink.

True, a lot of people just don't get the appeal of rail travel... take a deep breath... relax.


You COULD drive...


You COULD fly...


You COULD take the Bus...


OR YOU COULD DINE WITH THE STARS ON AMTRAK!

ANY QUESTIONS?

OCKLAWAHA

Ocklawaha

#5
April 05, 2009, 02:24:58 PM
Good work Y'all, for all the noise we make about improving our city transportation, only 14 out of 100 readers have bothered to fill out the poll.

PLEASE DO IT! If not for yourself, for your childrens, childrens, children!

OCKLAWAHA

coredumped

#6
April 05, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
Good survey - I think it's very important to restore the i-95 line (here->daytona->melbourne->etc). Doing that can get us as a destination for travelers going to cities in deeper in florida from out of state. I would hate to see a mid-state/i-75 line (valdosta, ga->gainsville->ocala->orlando...etc) and completely miss us.
We need to make it happen!
Jags season ticket holder.

Ocklawaha

#7
April 06, 2009, 12:04:40 AM
Great to see that a few mopre joined in the poll. If we really want to make a statement to Tallahassee and Amtrak, the other 84 that have read this post better get down and fill in the survey before the clock runs out! WE NEED YOU! Amtrak AND Tallahassee have said, "We would expand Amtrak in Northeast Florida, but "THEY" don't care, or "THEY" don't want it! Show them we do care and fill out the survey today.

Thanks to Coredumped and all the others for getting on the train!

OCKLAWAHA

Jason

#8
April 06, 2009, 11:44:57 AM
My votes are in.

Things should pick up during the week.  Don't sweat it Ock!  :)

Shwaz

#9
April 06, 2009, 12:26:07 PM
My votes are in!
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

blizz01

#10
April 06, 2009, 12:38:20 PM
Of course I voted you guys to lead the task force.....

Doctor_K

#11
April 06, 2009, 01:00:43 PM
Did my part!  Hooray nominating Ock and Lake for leading the task force!
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

mtraininjax

#12
April 07, 2009, 01:14:28 AM
I voted, but dump the dining car, the best car on the train is the bar car with the bud and Heineken beer selection. One class of people up from the bus.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Ocklawaha

#13
April 08, 2009, 12:08:47 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 07, 2009, 01:14:28 AM
I voted, but dump the dining car, the best car on the train is the bar car with the bud and Heineken beer selection. One class of people up from the bus.

I don't know the trains you've been riding MTRAININJAX but I think I'd rate the train roughly equal with the cruise ship. The Airlines have become the flying cattle cars of the 21st century. Buses? Depends on Motor Coach or Bus, and even then the TYPE of motor coach. There is a world of difference between an MCI on a JTA commute and a SILVER EAGLE, PREVOST CAR, VAN HOOL, SETRA, or VOLVO.



OCKLAWAHA

Ocklawaha

#14
April 08, 2009, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: Doctor_K on April 06, 2009, 01:00:43 PM
Did my part!  Hooray nominating Ock and Lake for leading the task force!

Thanks, that question was put in there as a bit of comedy, but who knows? Maybe it will have some effect in getting the politico's to open their eye and ears to our rants.

OCKLAWAHA
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