Hemming Park and Homeless Issues Downtown. Administration Rethink.

Started by stephendare, February 17, 2009, 04:07:27 PM

Springfielder

The stores sell it to them, because they have the money to make the purchase. It's not like you can deny selling a product to someone that may appear to be homeless, because of that...that's illegal. So as long as people give them money to buy, they will.


gatorback

I think you could not sell to people who consume the beer in public then discard the container in the street or park.  I don't think anybody could sue you for that.  As a business owner you have the right to refuse service to people who are breaking the law.  In America, you get to decide who you do business with.  Unless you are the government.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

Springfielder

So how is a merchant supposed to know all of that before selling? It's not up to the merchant to enforce the laws you're talking about.


gatorback

He could start by carding everybody.  If they don't have an ID card, then no beer.  The law says you don't have to card if they look over 40 (I think), but that doesn't stop you from asking to begin with.  No card, no beer, cigs, etc.

If he seems them drinking or urinating in public then dont sell them anything. 
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

Springfielder

I somehow doubt the merchants are going to go outside to watch these people to see what they're doing and if they're urinating outside, just so they won't make another sale. As for carding people, yes, that can be used but the majority of the ones I see hanging in the park look old enough to buy smokes and beer. I agree that many may not have ID's and that could be a means not to sell, but that's about it.


Pi

hahahahahahahaha LMAO

Convenience store owners shouldn't sell beer to the homeless? Could all the people that were pissed off about the BP store at 8th & Liberty thread chime in now? They were pissed that some who lived near it didn't want drug-related items sold at the front counter. Accused the residents of wanting to shut down that business and then continued into a true BS sarcastic slippery slope of shutting down Walgreens and Walmart cause they sell the same crap. Now we're talking about getting them not to sell beer. Still LMAO.

gatorback

Alright Lou Dobbs....I was just saying cut out the supply of beer to those 18 - 40 year olds that don't have ID ccards...gezzz
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586