Bush administration ignored clear warnings

[RiversideGator]

RG your point about socialized medicine is valid.

true...but people die here every day because they didn't get proper preventive medicine also!

Except death rates from cancer (to give one example) are lower in the US than in many European socialist nations due to not as much early detection and health care rationing by government.  Read more here:

Sally C. Pipes is one of the few who has explored the reality of government-controlled medical treatment in Canada and other countries. Among the things she discovered is that new life-saving medications that go immediately into the market in the United States take a much longer time to become available to Canadian patients-- if they ever get approved by the bureaucrats.

No doubt that lowers the cost of medications-- if you count costs solely in money terms, rather than in terms of how many people literally pay with their lives when the bureaucrats are reluctant to buy new pharmaceutical drugs, while they can continue to approve obsolete and cheaper drugs for the same illnesses.

Cancer survival rates are higher in the United States than in Europe. A recent report by the Fraser Institute in Vancouver estimates that annually tens of thousands of Canadians seek medical treatment outside of Canada, even though treatment is free inside Canada and they have to pay themselves for treatment elsewhere.

Other studies show that waiting times for surgery are months longer in Canada, Britain and Australia-- all countries with government-controlled medical care-- than in the United States.

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2009/01/07/an_emergency_review?page=full&comments=true

[RiversideGator]

I suppose those people should have to apologize for choosing to put food on the table before paying $100+ for a 15 minute doctor's appointment!

No, but many uninsured people should apologize to the rest of us who have to pick up their healthcare tab for failing to pay for health insurance and instead using the money that could have gone for health care for lattes, cell phones, cable TV and internet service.  The bottom line is many of the uninsured actually could afford to pay for health insurance but choose not to and become free riders on the government's tab. 

Also, silly government rules prohibit in many cases people from choosing the healthcare plans they really want by mandating that plans cover certain items.  This of course raises the cost of health insurance for everyone thereby pricing many people out of the market.

[Sigma]

http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom

Long article, but worth the time to read.  Don't know if Bush haters can get over their emotions long enough to read a more comprehensive explanation - but here it is some additional info.

[Midway ®]

Why would anyone hate Bush? he kept us safe for 7 years, except for that one little slip-up in September.

A nearly perfect record!

Bravo and well done!

It's just commonsensical to love him.

[RiversideGator]

Wait till all the Clinton era retreads get back into the White House with Obama and begin to pick apart our intelligence services and military.  I fear foolishness such as yours will lead to a catastrophe one day - the loss of a city even.

[Lunican]

You mean like New Orleans?

[RiversideGator]

I forgot.  It is obviously Bush's fault that the incompetent and thieving local levee boards in New Orleans squandered their money which was intended for levee maintenance on various corrupt schemes rather than safeguarding their city.  It is also Bush's fault that the French chose to found a city hundreds of years ago on a slight bluff between a huge river, swampland and a large lake which is subject to flooding and that subsequent generations drained the low lying swampland and built homes there.  Thanks for reminding me of that, lunican.

[Charleston native]

Don't forget that the Indians in the region where New Orleans was planned to be built warned the builders and planners that the land was prone to constant flooding. Their advice was ignored, and look at what we have now.

Oh yeah, it's also Bush's fault that New Orleans was headed by a foolish, incompetent mayor and governor, both who were complete idiots by not evacuating the city with school buses among other failures to properly initiate a hurricane disaster plan.

[tufsu1]

no...but completely ignoring or underfunding requests from the Army Corp of Engineers to fix levees nationwide was his fault!

[tufsu1]

I fear foolishness such as yours will lead to a catastrophe one day - the loss of a city even.

Does the foolishness include denial of global warming?  Because if we do nothing (and you are wrong) than any # of our cities could be under water!

[Charleston native]

no...but completely ignoring or underfunding requests from the Army Corp of Engineers to fix levees nationwide was his fault!

Clearly, you have been propagandized.

[BridgeTroll]

no...but completely ignoring or underfunding requests from the Army Corp of Engineers to fix levees nationwide was his fault!

As did every president prior...

[RiversideGator]

I fear foolishness such as yours will lead to a catastrophe one day - the loss of a city even.

Does the foolishness include denial of global warming?  Because if we do nothing (and you are wrong) than any # of our cities could be under water!

Once GW starts manifesting itself, I will start to worry.  The only problem is global average temperatures have been dropping:

Record Low Temps Validate Growing Consensus Against Man-Made Global Warming

NCPA Expert Says Evidence Continues to Dispel Climate Myths

DALLAS (Jan. 13, 2009) - This winter's record low temperatures and snowfall are one more indicator that recent global warming is likely not a result of man-made activities but of the natural ebb and flow of temperatures, according to NCPA Senior Fellow H. Sterling Burnett.

"The rhetoric has been that human activities are causing the earth to warm, ice caps to melt, and hurricanes to get more destructive," Burnett said, "but the evidence increasingly shows that is not true."

Burnett noted, for example, that International Falls, Minnesota - the coldest location in the continental United States - just today set a new record low temperature of minus 40 degrees and snowfall records have recently been set in 63 U.S. locations.

"Contrary to what all the climate models have predicted, over the past decade the global average temperature has fallen to its lowest levels in 30 years," Burnett added.  He also noted that after two years of ice-cap melting in the Arctic, an abrupt turnaround occurred in 2008, with ice forming at a record pace. And he said more and more scientists are paying attention to the evidence and rejecting the link between human actions and the recent warming trend.

"The wheels are falling off the global-warming bandwagon," Burnett said. "While climate action boosters continue to call for politicians to ignore reality -- even in the face of mounting contrary evidence against catastrophic warming - scientists, the public and politicians are wising up."

The National Center for Policy Analysis is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization whose goal is to solve problems by developing and promoting innovative, market-driven solutions.

http://eteam.ncpa.org/news/record-low-temps-validate-growing-consensus-against-man-made-global-warming

[tufsu1]

no...but completely ignoring or underfunding requests from the Army Corp of Engineers to fix levees nationwide was his fault!

As did every president prior...

agreed!

[Sigma]

no...but completely ignoring or underfunding requests from the Army Corp of Engineers to fix levees nationwide was his fault!

Until Jindal was elected governer, LA has been completely controlled by Democrats in all offices from the Mayor to Congressmen/Senators for at least 40 years.  I guess that's what the money in Jefferson's freezer was for - he was saving up to repair the levees!!