Regulating Gas Prices

Started by tufsu1, January 13, 2009, 09:44:35 PM

tufsu1

Here is one more reason why private businesses are often assisted by government regulation...

Gas price swings have trapped automakers before, especially last summer when the price spike caught many with too many pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles and too few smaller, more efficient cars. Lower prices cut sales of the Prius gas-electric hybrid by 45 percent in December and forced Toyota Motor Corp. to shelve construction of a new factory to make them in the U.S.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28643952/

Joe

I think the articles' conclusion is debatable at best. Lower gas prices caused a 45 drop in sales and a shelving of a new plant?? So it had nothing at all to do with the giant economic slowdown. Nothing at all.

BridgeTroll

This is exactly the short term thinking that got them into this predicament... ::)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

jaxnative

.....and it's governments responsibility to assist the auto industry by regulating another industry to create artificial market conditions?  How do we as individuals and small businesses get big brother to protect our every move?

tufsu1

Any rapid increase or decrease throws the equilibrium off.

Now with gas prices, clearly the rapid rise in fuel prices created a huge problem in the overall economy (not just car sales)....but it wasn't just the oil & gas industry playing with the prices....the rapid changes have been fueled (pun intended) by speculators and market futurists....add on top of that the whims of OPEC and it can get out of hand.

All that is being argued here is to set a floor (and perhaps a ceiling as well) so fluctuations are not so dramatic.

BridgeTroll

So... your actually advocating the governments intervention in fuel prices??  No kidding?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

tufsu1

yes...and even if they don't do it outright....opening/closing of our strategic reserves also effects the price....they can do that now.

Doctor_K

Slippery slope. 

What else would you like for them to control that they don't already?
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

BridgeTroll

Quoteyes...and even if they don't do it outright....opening/closing of our strategic reserves also effects the price....they can do that now.

Nixon tried that... it failed miserably.  The government should be buying every drop of oil they can get and stuff it into the reserve...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

tufsu1

the price of oil continues to drop because demand is low and apparently our reserves are at record levels.

BridgeTroll

This is good news.  That said... Detroit should get off their ass, quit making excuses, and start making fuel efficient, and alternative autos.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

tufsu1

they are...Ford is about to release the 2010 Fusion....and the hybrid version gets around 35mpg city...which blows away all other hybrids its size....its only beat by the Civic and Prius.

But, with gas prices low, Prius sales dropped by 45% in the fall while truck sales actually climbed slightly....so for Ford, the big question is will people buy it?

BridgeTroll

Build it and they will come.  Jacking up fuel prices so Detroit can sell cars is silly...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

tufsu1

it has little to do with selling cars to me.....I'm suggesting a floor and a ceiling....such that wild swings in the market don't have a ripple effect through our whole economy!

BridgeTroll

The effects of these swings are short term.  I trust market forces to set the price of oil (I may not like the price) much, much more than a bureaucrat in the government.  Perhaps that same bureaucrat can set wage upper and lower limits so the rich don't get richer and the poor do not get poorer. 
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."