Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

[Matt]

As the world goes to hell in a handbasket, and the Southern USA floods 30 feet deep, I sure hope I'm around for a 50 yard line seat. Damn, we're so screwed. At least I'd like to be one of the Neanderthals that SAW the meteor! Would make for some cool converstation in Heaven... "Ya know, I was just there on the beach and man, I saw like this mountain screaming down on us..."

OCKLAWAHA

I agree! I saw a mural of a meteor hitting the ocean with dinosaurs...it was in Disney World, but hey, it looked really awesome!

[RiversideGator]

more intentionally deceptive lies published by River.

Nice job, troll.  You never give up do you?

What I posted was relevant to the discussion, timely and accurate.  Sorry if it doesnt agree with your hysterical worldview.  And why the name calling from you again?  Perhaps you are having projection issues again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[RiversideGator]

yeah. actually.  The report is pushed by Inhofe, the displaced former chairman who began this fraudulent website to further his own politics.

The group of 'scientists' as has already been pointed out to River in many many other posts is not composed of climatologists, nor is it of the size he reported.

They put out email sheets at conventions so that people could sign up to check out more info, then claimed all of those people as 'members'.

Most of the people who signed that were actually climate scientists were appalled to find out that their names were included in the 'membership list'.

Its fraudulent from top to bottom, and whats worse is that River already knew that before he posted.

Speaking of fraud, can you provide any documentation for any of your statements in this quote other than perhaps that Senator Inhofe is connected with the report?  I will patiently await your nonresponse. 

[RiversideGator]

sure river, keep repeating that.

Ever wonder why this "international conference" is in Poland?

Why dont you ask the UN?  They convened the conference.   

[reednavy]

Another global warming debate, quite comical. Popcorn anyone?

[RiversideGator]

Everything is 'hysterical' to you, isnt it?

No.  Just you.

Remember your sneering denunciations of all the people who werent willing to take the word of the likes of Inhofe on the economy?

You sure did reprint alot of worthless 'proof' that the economy was strong back then.

Where is it all now?

The economy was strong.  It is now in a correction.  This is part of the free market.  It goes up and it goes down but in the aggregate society advances.  Your line of argument here however is a straw man argument which has nothing to do with the GW hype.

Problem with your postings on this, is that you are posting out of ideology, not knowledge.

I am confident that my knowledge base is far greater than yours.  BTW, more projection on your part here.

you have already admitted that you have never read the actual IPCC report on climate change, and you have made it clear that you arent a climatologist able to come to independent decisions.

Your basic points in all these is that the environmentalists, if left to their own devices will wreck the economy.

My basic point is that the environmentalists are wrong.  Their prescriptions will also wreck the economy.

Maybe you should pull your head out of that place where you keep your brain and reconsider that whole economy thing?

ya think?

Maybe you should go back and get an education before you get so condescending with me.

[RiversideGator]

Meanwhile, the earliest snow (tie for record) ever just happened in Houston:

Surprise flurries warm Houston hearts
Fluffy flakes bring delight to some, consternation to others â€" and tie a 64-year-old record

By ERIC BERGER,, JENNIFER LATSON and JENNIFER LEAHY
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Dec. 10, 2008, 11:09PM

Falling snowflakes glimmered in streetlights, so wide that they billowed to the ground like parachutes, and so tantalizing that even awestruck adults reached out their hands or stuck out their tongues to catch one.

By Wednesday evening, the flakes were big enough to hold their shape for a moment on the street before melting into the pavement, and a dusting had collected on parked cars in some parts of town.

The flurries tied a record for Houston's earliest snowfall ever and warmed the hearts of winter weather lovers who have pined for snow since it last made an appearance on Christmas Eve 2004.

"I've got a pot roast in the Crock-Pot, and I'm going to go home, change into my warmest pajamas and eat pot roast and enjoy what may be the only real winter day we have all year," said Tina Arnold, an Illinois native who took advantage of the wintry backdrop to pick up Christmas presents Wednesday at The Woodlands Mall.

Since 1895, records indicate, snow has fallen this early just once â€" on Dec. 10, 1944.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6156862.html

Yes, I know that "cold weather is just more proof of global warming".   

[gatorback]

Wait a second.  I am moving to Houston Texas in search of work.  Are you saying there might not be a houston for me to work in?  What impact will this have on places like Houston or Sugar Land Texas?

[RiversideGator]

None.

[RiversideGator]

More evidence of global warming:

More snow in the Deep South.  New Orleans hit with snow storm.

Sleet, snow tail off in New Orleans
by The Times-Picayune
Thursday December 11, 2008, 12:00 PM

For the first time in nearly four years, snow fell across the New Orleans region this morning, with flurries reported on the north shore and in the city, Metairie, Kenner, LaPlace and other parts of the south shore. By around 10 a.m., the snow had mostly stopped, replaced by freezing rain in many places, making driving treacherous. By noon, the precipitation had mostly ceased altogether.

By mid-morning, enough snow had accumulated on the ground in some areas to lure children and adults onto their front lawns to build snowmen or have snowball fights. In the city, neutral grounds remained blanketed in white, though the streets generally remained clear as the wet stuff melted upon hitting the pavement.

In Mandeville, where the snow was heavier, lawns were covered with thicker blankets of white fluff as school buses filled with squealing students made the rounds. Children, most seeing snow for the first time Christmas Day 2004, tried to catch flakes in their hands as the buses rumbled along.
Eliot Kamenitz/The Times-PicayuneNew Orleans Metro area residents woke up to falling snow on Thursday, December 11, 2008.

Snow in New Orleans is a rarity. The last time it snowed was Christmas 2004; before that, the last snow recorded was in 1989, according to Jim Vasilj, a forecaster with the National Weather Service. Since 1850, snow had fallen in "measurable amounts" rather than traces in the city just 17 times, Vasilj said. Of the 17, today's snowfall was the earliest in the season recorded.

As much as 6 inches had piled up in Livingston Parish as of 10 a.m., Vasilj said. Similar amounts were reported in Bogalusa and St. Helena Parish, while in Mandeville, between 2 and 3 inches had accumulated, according to Vasilj.

While snow in the Deep South is a pleasant novelty, the weather did cause trouble for some. A handful of schools and universities shut down for the day, bus service was disrupted, and flights at Armstrong International were cancelled or delayed.

Outages were also reported in St. Tammany and Washington parishes, with the majority in the Franklinton area, according to Cleco spokeswoman Robbyn Cooper. Cleo has a total of nearly 7,000 power outages statewide, most of them in Allen, Evangeline, Acadia and St. Landry parishes.
John McCusker / The Times-PicayuneAngele McClain delights in the snow falling around her lakefront home in New Orleans Thursday morning. Rain turned to sleet which was followed by flurries by 8 am.

The metro area remains under a winter weather advisory for rain mixed with sleet and snow. Several bridges closed due to icy conditions, and numerous accidents were reported, especially on the north shore, because of slick roadways.

There were no road closures or hazardous conditions reported in New Orleans and no accidents on the Causeway Bridge, which is operating with a 45 mph speed limit.

Temperatures today are expected to remain in the 40s throughout the day, but the wind chill will make it feel more like in the 30s. Winds are from the northwest at 15 to 25 miles per our today, shifting to the north tonight.

The winter weather advisory is in effect until noon, but the chance of rain will linger until about mid-afternoon. Lows tonight will be in the mid-30s.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/the_new_orleans_area_is.html

[gatorback]

I thought it was warming.  Oh, wait, RSG said it was cooling.  You're right again oh Westside Oracle.

[Joe]

Of course, alarmists are going to retort, "individual weather patterns don't reflect a worldwide phenomena of temp averages." And that it certainly correct. The earliest snowfall in history isn't any more evidence than, say the hottest day in history, or the most hurricanes in history.

However, what does matter is this:

Despite an ever so slight warming trend, weather patterns are still going up and down like normal. However, the volume of CO2 has been steadily and drastically increasing beyond all previous projections. Yet the weather doesn't reflect this. In fact, the weather keeps (shockingly) reflecting the energy patterns of the sun. The correlation between CO2 rise and temp rise is getting weaker with every year of data.

Could it just possibly be that alarmist scientists (and politicians) have miscalculated some part of the dynamic of CO2 as a greenhouse gas? Perhaps industry really isn't the problem compared to other factors? How about we apply the damn precautionary principal to that possibility?

[RiversideGator]

I thought it was warming.  Oh, wait, RSG said it was cooling.  You're right again oh Westside Oracle.

I am saying it is just weather.  Sometimes it is hot, sometimes it is cold.  And we do not fully understand why although it appears to be mostly caused by the energy received from the sun.  CO2 is not as powerful a driver as the alarmists would have you believe. 

BTW, for the last time, Stephen is the official "Oracle" here.   

[RiversideGator]

I am thinking more of Narcissus actually.

[RiversideGator]

BTW, no matter your position on the GW theory, this is a great photo: