Time to buy a Hybrid?

[David]

Yea I just leave my car running 24/7 now. It's parked in the garage, so I mean.... why shut it off?

[gatorback]

Is there something machanically wrong with the car like it wont start again if you do shut it off, or is the igniation switch broken, or you just want to leave it running?  I mean, Im not judging.  Truckers leave those big ole rigs running all night why shouldnt we leave our running.

[Coolyfett]

Oil will hit 25 when electric cars become mainstream and when US president cracks down on oil gang.

There was an article in the paper today that was talking about Transit going up and auto driving still going down across the US, even after the gas price drops. The rag said that many of the US citizens are continuing with the trend to not drive and us trains and buses, Cities mentioned were, New York, Washington DC, Chicago, Philadelphia & Phoenix. Another thing that they pointed out was that none of the systems are making the money they spend to operate the system. Not even New York Subway. Makes some of the posters on this forum very very credible even though some are always in doubt.

Someone mentioned demand for gas has dropped and at the time I was in doubt, well I think that person is actually right. People are getting away from driving, but I just don't see it locally here in GA, but hey you can't argue with numbers. If the people in NY, DC, Chi & Phi are following or creating the trend I would think it is Jax best interest to follow.

Is Jax following the trend or doing its own thing? What are JTAs numbers?

It just weirds me out how the price just suddenly dropped though.

How funny is it if gas companies start asking for a bail out

If that ever happened Id know we as a country are heading in the right direction.

[BridgeTroll]

Here is a 9 minute presentation on the Hydrogen powered car by Larry Burns.  He is the VP for R&D at GM.


http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/reinventing_the_car.html

[Joe]

Oil will hit 25 when electric cars become mainstream and when US president cracks down on oil gang.

I just wanted to point out that the vast majority of oil production is done by foriegn governments (and usually totalitarian ones at that). Private corporations only account for a small minority of output - and US corporations are a smaller share still.

So unless you are advocating the assassination of the leaders of OPEC countries ... I'm not exactly sure how the US president can deal with "oil gang" as it were.

[jaxnative]

Driving continues to decline as gas prices drop
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press Writer Joan Lowy, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 33 mins ago
WASHINGTON â€" Drivers clocked 9 billion fewer miles on the nation's roads in October even while gas prices were dropping, suggesting a downturn in driving that began a year ago is attributable to more than just energy costs.

Federal Highway Administration data released Friday show the number of miles driven dropped 3.5 percent in October compared with the same month a year ago. Between November 2007, when the driving decline began, and October, Americans drove 100 billion fewer miles. That's the largest continuous decline in driving the nation has experienced.

Gas prices averaged $3.15 a gallon in October, down from a high of $4.09 in July, according to the Energy Information Administration.

"The fact that the trend persists even as gas prices are dropping confirms that America's travel habits are fundamentally changing," Transportation Secretary Mary Peters said in a statement.

The data show the region it describes as the South Atlantic â€" a block of eight states and Washington, D.C. â€" experienced the biggest decline in October of any region, 5 percent fewer vehicle miles. Montana's 8.4 percent driving decline was the largest of any state, followed by Utah with 7.4 percent, and South Carolina with 6.7 percent.

The highway administration collects the driving data from more than 4,000 automatic traffic recorders operated around-the-clock by state highway agencies.

While driving declined, subways, buses, commuter rail and light-rail systems have reported record increases in ridership. Amtrak, the nation's intercity passenger railroad, said it carried the highest number of passengers and brought in the most revenue in fiscal 2008 in its 37-year history.

It's likely the economic crisis is an important factor in the driving decline, said David Goldberg, a spokesman for Transportation for America, a coalition of groups pressing for more alternatives to driving.

"We regularly see fewer trips being made in economic downturns," Goldberg said. "I think when we probe these numbers we'll find that a lot of people have figured out how to telework or how to go into the office fewer days. And having experienced that and made that work, I think they'll continue to save the money and the time and effort and reduce some of those trips."

Peters expressed concern that the decline in driving is widening a gap between federal gas tax revenues and the government's commitments to fund state and local highway repair and construction projects. Congress made an emergency infusion of $8 billion earlier this year from the general treasury to cover an expected shortfall in the fund.

"As driving decreases and vehicle fuel efficiency continues to improve, the long-term viability of the Highway Trust Fund grows weaker," Peters said.

Federal safety officials reported Thursday that auto fatalities dropped almost 10 percent in 2008 through October, a trend that is likely influenced by the driving decline.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/driving_less/print