The Jaguars: Now What?

[adamh0903]

They dont have the protection or the WR's to "throw it all over the field". I would like to see the Jags get back to a run it first, mow you down running game, with the ability to make teams pay when they load the box. We are/were a pound it out, control the clock team. I think both the DC and OC stay and Harris is out

[Ocklawaha]

Could always use a Jacksonville solution to the delima here.

1. Buy the Vikings and move them to Ponte Vedra "The PVV has a ring to it."

2. Join a minor league team and rule the league for a year, maybe two.

3. Wholesale abandon the team in the stadium.

4. Start a roumor that the team will leave next Saturday.

Just my observation from the poop deck.

OCKLAWAHA

[I-10east]

We probably will hafta go through another mediocre/poor season til' the Jags say adios to Del Rio, and the gang; I CAN'T wait until then! D. Koetter called a pretty good game IMO against MIN, but thanks to Scobee, Pashos, and M. Lewis; Face it, we just suck! We will continue to struggle as long as JDR is the coach; I know he's a former player, probably could be in a magazine like Men's Fitness, he has the "Jacked up" T-shirts, women love him, etc, etc, etc; Unfortunately, that DOESN'T equal to wins on the football field. Just my 2 cents.

[Shwaz]

JDR isn't going anywhere... his contract says so. He's taken the team from salary cap disaster left by Coughlin, transformed the teams identity and took them to the playoff's twice in 4 years.

The players are the ones on the hot seat... not the coordinators or JDR.

[deathstar]

Fragile Fred wants out: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/112708/jag_360339033.shtml

Taylor, 32, said he saw the handwriting on the wall that he's being phased out when he was on the field for only 22 snaps in the 30-12 loss last Sunday to the Minnesota Vikings.

"When the opportunities become minimized, you have to prepare for what comes next," Taylor said as he repeated comments he made on Sirius NFL Radio on Tuesday.

He wanted to make it clear the "next" doesn't include retirement.

"I don't want people to think I'm in the mode to retire because I'm not," Taylor said. "I don't want them to think I'm not passionate. I don't want them to feel my skills have diminished. I still feel like I can compete on a higher level. That's why I said I will play somewhere. I've got to play football. At this point, it seems that's all I know."

[Coolyfett]

Fragile Fred wants out: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/112708/jag_360339033.shtml

Taylor, 32, said he saw the handwriting on the wall that he's being phased out when he was on the field for only 22 snaps in the 30-12 loss last Sunday to the Minnesota Vikings.

"When the opportunities become minimized, you have to prepare for what comes next," Taylor said as he repeated comments he made on Sirius NFL Radio on Tuesday.

He wanted to make it clear the "next" doesn't include retirement.

"I don't want people to think I'm in the mode to retire because I'm not," Taylor said. "I don't want them to think I'm not passionate. I don't want them to feel my skills have diminished. I still feel like I can compete on a higher level. That's why I said I will play somewhere. I've got to play football. At this point, it seems that's all I know."

Fred needs to retire a Jag. He can always get in broadcasting. Please don't pull the Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith thing....That is so lame when players to that. There is plenty of money left in NFL and it doesn't have to be on the field.

[adamh0903]

Fragile Fred wants out: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/112708/jag_360339033.shtml

Taylor, 32, said he saw the handwriting on the wall that he's being phased out when he was on the field for only 22 snaps in the 30-12 loss last Sunday to the Minnesota Vikings.

"When the opportunities become minimized, you have to prepare for what comes next," Taylor said as he repeated comments he made on Sirius NFL Radio on Tuesday.

He wanted to make it clear the "next" doesn't include retirement.

"I don't want people to think I'm in the mode to retire because I'm not," Taylor said. "I don't want them to think I'm not passionate. I don't want them to feel my skills have diminished. I still feel like I can compete on a higher level. That's why I said I will play somewhere. I've got to play football. At this point, it seems that's all I know."

Nice hatchet job.... number one, You don’t get 11k yards if you are fragile and number 2, no where in that article does he say he wants out...

[deathstar]

MJD would be at 11k yards in 5 years if he were with another team.



And yeah.. because athletes always say it out loud that they want out, before they find a better team. Come on, this is 2008, who DOESN'T want to stay with a out of sync, pathetic team before they retire? Yahoo for the athletes who go down in the record books as guys who did their job really really well, but never got a Super Bowl Ring. That's why they play the game 

[copperfiend]

After last night, is this the low point of the franchise? At least in the past when they team had a sub-.500 record, it was a young team. During last night's game I noticed all the guys who had 6+ years of service in the league. Garrard, Taylor, Porter, Spicer, Henderson, Meier, Hayward. This is not a young team. And our best player on defense, Mathis, left the game with a knee injury that looked much worse than the announcers made it out to be. 4 games left; @ Chicago, v. Green Bay, v. Indy and @ Baltimore. They aren't winning another game.

[MattnJax]

After last night, is this the low point of the franchise? At least in the past when they team had a sub-.500 record, it was a young team. During last night's game I noticed all the guys who had 6+ years of service in the league. Garrard, Taylor, Porter, Spicer, Henderson, Meier, Hayward. This is not a young team. And our best player on defense, Mathis, left the game with a knee injury that looked much worse than the announcers made it out to be. 4 games left; @ Chicago, v. Green Bay, v. Indy and @ Baltimore. They aren't winning another game.

Yeah I don't see us winning another game this year either. This might be the lowest point. But the 2000 season was pretty low too. In 1999 we had the best record in the league at 14-2 and made it to the AFC Championship game before losing to the Titans. Now granted we were an older team in 2000, but after being oh so close to the Super Bowl it was very disappointing to go 7-9 that year. The next two years after that when we had back to back 6-10 seasons and were in salary cap hell sucked too.

[mikew]

After last night, is this the low point of the franchise? At least in the past when they team had a sub-.500 record, it was a young team. During last night's game I noticed all the guys who had 6+ years of service in the league. Garrard, Taylor, Porter, Spicer, Henderson, Meier, Hayward. This is not a young team. And our best player on defense, Mathis, left the game with a knee injury that looked much worse than the announcers made it out to be. 4 games left; @ Chicago, v. Green Bay, v. Indy and @ Baltimore. They aren't winning another game.

From an optimist's POV -

The problems are fixable.  The Jags under Del Rio have been built to run the ball and stop the run - just like the Titans.  We lost Marcus Stroud and Grady Jackson on the defensive line and two quality starting OGs in Manuwai and Mo Williams.   

We need to fix the lines. I'd like another quality DT, an OT and an OG just in case Manuwai or Mo aren't at 100% next year.  We could also use another nickle CB.

We probably will finish in last place.   That means we'll draw a last place schedule, playing against the weak NFC West.   I'll bet you we bounce back next year.

[BridgeTroll]

I like your optimism... gotta love parity!

[Traveller]

Based on current standings, the Jags' schedule next year would consist of the following teams:

Colts (x2)
Texans (x2)
Titans (x2)
Bills
Dolphins
Patriots
Jets
Cardinals
Rams
Seahawks
49ers
Bengals
Chiefs

[Charleston native]

From an optimist's POV -

The problems are fixable.  The Jags under Del Rio have been built to run the ball and stop the run - just like the Titans.  We lost Marcus Stroud and Grady Jackson on the defensive line and two quality starting OGs in Manuwai and Mo Williams.   

We need to fix the lines. I'd like another quality DT, an OT and an OG just in case Manuwai or Mo aren't at 100% next year.  We could also use another nickle CB.

We probably will finish in last place.   That means we'll draw a last place schedule, playing against the weak NFC West.   I'll bet you we bounce back next year.

As much as I want be an optimist, I'm finding more pessimism with Jack Del Rio as head coach. Granted, he has created a semi-competitive team in the past, reaching a peak last year. However, I'm finding myself disappointed with his decisions, especially considering that the Jags gave up on a coach that is now coaching the 2008 Super Bowl champs who are looking to repeat. The reality is that the Jags let Coughlin go too soon, and instead found a mediocre coach.

Face it, the Jags were more respected and had better talent with Coughlin, while Del Rio has hired mediocre talent. While Coughlin's Jags may have had a salary cap problem, you cannot ignore what he has done with the Giants. Also, I'm beginning to think Garrard's season last year was a fluke, which questions Del Rio's capability for assessing QB and other offensive talent. I also agree with copperfiend on the play-calling.

[Shwaz]

How does no one remember the destruction Tom Coughlin did to this team. It was just this time last year that HE was on the hot seat and almost out of a job.

Is he a great coach? Yes

So is

Steve Spagnuolo as defensive coordinator

Kevin Gilbride as offensive coordinator

Spagnuolo will be head coach in the next couple season and most likely coaching the Giants
Gilbride... name sound familliar? He's the same Kevin Gilbride that drew up the Jags offense during the good years

Coughlin tried to be GM + Offensive Coordinator + Head coach all at the same time. He mortaged the teams fututre paying way too much for way too old players that ended up collecting a paycheck from their sofa's.

Coughlin was mocked and ridiculed in this town until January of last year... now he's Tom Lom-frickin-bardi