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Started by Keith-N-Jax, November 13, 2008, 02:50:19 AM

David

#60
it seems they didn't protect against deep passes that well, the titans made it look way too easy. I know they're really good and all but i would've much rather have given up 10-15 yards instead of those long bombs down the field.

As for Garrad, regardless of how good/bad you think he is it was still a step up from Leftwich. He defintely was able to scramble his way out of a few sacks yesterday, more  than leftwich would've.. We just don't have many go-to wide recievers.

It seems the team just lost their energy after the half, hell even the fans did. When I left to get drinks at halftime  everyone was pumped up, there was this energy in the air. I came back right at the opening of the 3rd quarter and it felt like both the team and fans had given up.

Regardless though, we were in the game until the last 5 minutes, it was only a 3 point difference until that interception.

Whattyado..... You just can't mess up like that when playing undefeated teams (remember the patriots last year?)






I-10east

#61
Everything here is Jax is VERY peachy with a GREAT coaching staff; They call EXCELLENT with their INNOVATIVE play calling; JDR is the man for next year to take us to the promised land. Jax just happened to run into BETTER teams in TEN(twice), BUF, PIT, CIN, and CLE. It's definitely looking bright with the coaching staff intact for next year to get JAX to the SB. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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BULLS*IT CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!

OUR COACHING STAFF SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Why keep dropping back for medium ranged passes when the Titans are CONSTANTLY getting pressure up the middle?

Why not SHORTEN the passing game, esp. wit' M. Jones out?

Why not UTILIZE the backs more outta the backfield?

Where's a QUICK OUT pass to a WR to get the ball outta #9's hands quickly?

How come we ran a GREAT play call in a bunch formation weak-side toss to the outside to MJD that FOOLED TEN's defense, and you don't see that play again for the entire game?

The Miami Dolphins are no better than JAX IMO, but MIA has innovative play callers that put their players in good position to WIN GAMES; Whatever it takes; Wildcat formations, SUCCESSFUL reverses, etc. I bet Lake agrees with me. JAX has STUPID coaches, and we seem to give the other team our play book; Look at the old Jags with Coughlin and that 9-7 playoff teams back in 1996; No better than this current team, but it had a SUPERIOR coaching staff, to this current one in JAX.

These are MY OPINIONS!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU(any metrojax member) HAVE A PROBLEM WIT' EM, SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRE JDR after this season!!!!!!


copperfiend

96 Jags were no better than this team? They had two borderline Hall of Fame receivers and a Hall of Fame left tackle. Not to mention a Pro Bowl quarterback and right tackle. That team was very good. If anything, they underachieved.

thelakelander

I-10east, I do agree.  Outside of a few additions most of the guys on the Dolphins were a part of last year's pathetic 1-15 team.  The largest difference between then and now is the coaching staff and the Big Tuna (Bill Parcells).  They're doing a good job of utilizing their player's talents.  Last year's staff tried to force players to fit into Cam Cameron's system.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

I-10east

#64
Quote from: copperfiend on November 17, 2008, 11:08:24 AM
96 Jags were no better than this team? They had two borderline Hall of Fame receivers and a Hall of Fame left tackle. Not to mention a Pro Bowl quarterback and right tackle. That team was very good. If anything, they underachieved.

I'll give you that Copper, but IMO "Mr interception in the clutch(Brunell)" was a lil' overrated. I consider Keenan more of an "all-pro" than a Hall of Fame guy. Poor David Garrard; I wish he could get better recievers, and a better O-Line; Can you imagine Leftwich wit' Garrard's current O-Line??___ :o TEN probably would've sacked Leftwich eleven times.___ :(

Shwaz

JDR & co. are great coaches.

I saw great play calls in the second half, right on the money throws to receivers who's hands must've been coated with butter.

This is the same staff that put up franchise record points & yards, created the two headed monster and gave the team an identity with a strong running game and suffocating defense.

Injuries have killed the running game and the defense has just flat out laid an egg.

Getting rid of Stroud has hurt us... but last year we played better without him so it makes perfect sense to free up cap room and acquire extra draft picks.

The rookie's are young and need time to get better... too bad the vet's are too old to make plays during their growing period.

I liked the personnel moves on paper in the off season and the addition of Greg Williams. The free agents didn't pan out like they were supposed to and GW doesn't have the players to execute his attack style play. So for the most part our defensive scheme is the exact same as last year.

The offensive line injuries buried this team from the beginning... limiting the running game and leaving the qb under constant pressure.

Give us back Vince Manuwae, Mo Williams & Brad Meester on opening day and this season is sky's the limit.

I think we played a lot of tough games that were decided by a play or two here and there that would've changed the outcome in our favor.

If you think JDR is gone after his big contract in the off season you're wrong... maybe Shack Harris but not JDR.

The team will find a way to get its identity back and we'll fly under the radar all next season.

In the meantime... GO JAGS!


And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: MattnJax on November 16, 2008, 09:37:13 PM
But when we invest our whole draft in two underperforming DEs it's a big let-down. Especially when we sell the farm to move up in the draft to select one of them. And for what? I think one sack between the two of them all season. A lot of rookie defensive ends have great rookie years, so I'm not cutting them any slack because they are rookies. It would be different if they were QBs, but DE is one of the easiest for a rookie. Heck I believe Javon Kearse had about 14 sacks his rookie year.

Copper said exactly what I was gonna say in response to this. You exaggerate when you say "a lot" have great rookie seasons. Kearse was an exception, there are exceptions at every position. You know Jevon Kearse hasn't really had a season close to the numbers he put up his rookie year? In sacks or tackles. His rookie season was his best statistically, and none since have really even been that close.

Not saying that these guys won't prove to ultimately be disappointments, but I don't think it's fair to call them that until this time next year.

I-10east

#67
Quote from: Shwaz on November 17, 2008, 11:52:31 AM
JDR & co. are great coaches.

I saw great play calls in the second half, right on the money throws to receivers who's hands must've been coated with butter.

This is the same staff that put up franchise record points & yards, created the two headed monster and gave the team an identity with a strong running game and suffocating defense.

Injuries have killed the running game and the defense has just flat out laid an egg.

Getting rid of Stroud has hurt us... but last year we played better without him so it makes perfect sense to free up cap room and acquire extra draft picks.

The rookie's are young and need time to get better... too bad the vet's are too old to make plays during their growing period.

I liked the personnel moves on paper in the off season and the addition of Greg Williams. The free agents didn't pan out like they were supposed to and GW doesn't have the players to execute his attack style play. So for the most part our defensive scheme is the exact same as last year.

The offensive line injuries buried this team from the beginning... limiting the running game and leaving the qb under constant pressure.

Give us back Vince Manuwae, Mo Williams & Brad Meester on opening day and this season is sky's the limit.

I think we played a lot of tough games that were decided by a play or two here and there that would've changed the outcome in our favor.

If you think JDR is gone after his big contract in the off season you're wrong... maybe Shack Harris but not JDR.

The team will find a way to get its identity back and we'll fly under the radar all next season.

In the meantime... GO JAGS!




Let me start off be saying; Shwaz, I respect your opinions, but I disagree with alot of what you said; Surprise huh!__ ;D

JDR and Co "maybe" are good coaches(best case scenario), but C'mon great?

You said that WR's were dropping balls in the second half; Funny, you and I couldn't have seen the same game; I saw Garrard not having any time to throw the ball, because TEN was getting pressure up the middle; He got hit alot; Our GENIUS coaches set #9 up for failure wit' the med range passes they called; Why not shorten the passing game? Why not roll Garrard out more? Why not screen a lil' more wit' MJD, and Freddie? How come Garrard NEVER audibles?

JDR will probably be here (unfortunately) next season, but c'mon Shwaz, let me dream a lil' about his departure from Jax. :)

adamh0903

JDR is fine

I do wonder about our front offices ability to evaluate talent.

I think its to early to tell on the 2 DE's
Jerry Porter did have a very serious injury that is still bothering I believe. Drayton Florence is being asked to play out of position because we dont have the personal to play Williams Defense. Florence was signed to be a pressure man corner, he cant do they because we cant get to the QB. I dont care who the CB is, you put him in man to man and allow the QB to see the field, he will pick a defense apart.

Everybody wants somebody fired after a loss....Its players not the plays.

Shwaz

QuoteYou exaggerate when you say "a lot" have great rookie seasons.

DE Chris Long 1st Round Pick 2 overall - 4 sacks
Vernon Gholston 1st Round Pick 6 overall - 0 sacks
Derrick Harvey 1st Round Pick 8 overall - 1.5 sacks

Give these guys some time

QuoteOur GENIUS coaches set #9 up for failure wit' the med range passes they called

Marcel from Jacksonville
I’m a huge Jaguars fan and I'm not a know-it-all but why do we only run up the middle? How predictable are the Jaguars? I know you love to run but after the third quarter, when the run was not working, why were the Jags still running up the middle?

Vic: Because it was better than being sacked. Is that a good answer? Seriously, though, how many years have the Jaguars been in the league? Isn’t it about time we stop asking this question? I mean, Steve Spurrier’s been gone from Florida for a long time now and he hasn’t done anything since then anyhow, so why don’t we just accept the fact that running the ball up the middle is what professional football teams do? Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor averaged 4.3 yards per carry and the Jaguars averaged 3.9 net yards per pass play, so I think running up the middle might’ve been the better option.






And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

I-10east

#70
^^^First paragraph about the "alot of rookies" or whatever, You didn't get that quote from me, so if gonna leave that alone. I think that you got the quote from PM; I'm glad that I'm NOT the only person that you disagree with. :)

Second paragraph about the play calling, and your correlation with someone on jaguars.com, and me are offbase IMO. "Marcel" does have a good point though; Jags should run outside a lil' more; Not all of the time, just a lil more. Funny thing is ev'rytime we run outside, we seem to get good yardage. It's a mystery as to why you think that our play calling is good; Who's coaching staff would you rather have, MIA's, or JAX's??__I'm gonna laugh if you say JAX's.__ :D 

Shwaz

You missed the point.. the game plan was short passes and they averaged 3.9 yards per play.
I included the whole quote because you're all about the lateral running which Vic pretty much explains is retarded.


QuoteWho's coaching staff would you rather have, MIA's, or JAX's??__

Jax of course... you can take that wild cat, spread offense crap right back to the college level. It's hokey & lame.
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: I-10east on November 17, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
^^^First paragraph about the "alot of rookies" or whatever, You didn't get that quote from me, so if gonna leave that alone. I think that you got the quote from PM; I'm glad that I'm NOT the only person that you disagree with. :)

He wasn't disagreeing with me. He was backing up my comment with statistics. Just sayin...although obviously the person I was responding to originally would be the person he disagrees with.

Quote from: I-10east on November 17, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
Second paragraph about the play calling, and your correlation with someone on jaguars.com, and me are offbase IMO. "Marcel" does have a good point though; Jags should run outside a lil' more; Not all of the time, just a lil more. Funny thing is ev'rytime we run outside, we seem to get good yardage. It's a mystery as to why you think that our play calling is good; Who's coaching staff would you rather have, MIA's, or JAX's??__I'm gonna laugh if you say JAX's.__ :D 

Without a doubt I take the Jax coaches. They have a proven track record. I might change my mind in a few years though. Also, I'd probably take Miami's front office (with Parcells at the helm).

copperfiend

Didn't Miami need a last second field goal to beat Oakland at home?

Jason