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Started by Keith-N-Jax, October 26, 2008, 08:48:56 PM

Keith-N-Jax

 :-[  Well back from the Jags game. I think now its time for the Jags to go back to the drawing board. The injury issue excuse is certainly gotton old now. The Jags are just being out played an out coached. I blame most of these loses on the coaches. The play calling has been very poor. We cant run or stop the run. Cant sack the QB, but ours is running for his life, other teams receivers get wide open break tackles and fight for extra yards while ours either dont get open or when they do catch the ball they are falling down or going out of bounds. No explosiveness at all. Defense is clawless to say atleast. All QBs our defense makes them look like pro bowlers or Brady like. Fans in the stands are saying they are tired of this boring offense and lack of defense.


I am afraid the Jags will finish below .500 if they keep playing like this. People keep saying this is the easy part of the schedule,hmmm do they know the Jags keep all oponents in the game to the last sec. With out some Zebra help and a coin toss, we should be 0-7 with out a doubt. Please God let the Lions win a game before we play them or the we will be embarrassed as being their first win. The Texans blew away the Bengals, but watched the Jags struggle next week. Basically with this defense, were playing for next yr,IMO this yr is over. I hope I am worng :-\

TREE4309

I was at the game as well, and while I also was disappointed and don't necessarily disagree with you, I think you're being a bit harsh.  We had a chance to win the game...came within one broken up near catch in the endzone of winning.  The Browns don't have a stellar record, but hey neither do we!  This is the same Browns team that tore up last year's Super Bowl champions as well.  The Jags are playing like a mediocre team and their record shows it.

Keith-N-Jax

Maybe so, I am just so disappointed with the defense and their perfomance this season. I recorded the game on dvr and watched the play before the last and only if Matt could have caught that ball it would have been one of the greastest wins in Jaguar history, but is was not to be. I dred the game vs the Bengals. The defense can not stop a stop sign this yr. I am going to keep supporting them though and keep going to the home games. I hope they start playing like we know they can!!! Lets Go Jags!!!! :'(

ProjectMaximus

Glad to see you're a true fan...in good times and bad. I understand your desire to lash out at the playcalling, but honestly it's the players not the plays. Guys need to step up now. The season isn't over yet...all that matters is you play Super Bowl-caliber ball at the end of the year, and you're still in contention at that point in time. So undefeated, 2 losses, or even 6 losses heading into the playoffs doesn't matter as long as you're playing well and you're in.

That said, our chances aren't looking good...we probably have to win 7 of these last 9 to get to the postseason. Bottom line is, we've got to play a lot better. But the season isn't done quite yet.

David

#4
Very painful to watch, but they had my eyes glued on every play.

The entire restaurant I was watching the game from erupted with a loud echoing YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh on Matt Jone's near catch in the end zone.

Our offense seems to be making decent plays, but we're over taxing them by them having to constantly answer to the onslaught of scoring from whatever team we're playing.

Last week I said it would be nice to put a game away and sit back and enjoy a win for the remainder of the 4th quarter, but i'll just take a win now. Anyway we can get it. That would be nice :D



uptowngirl

I noticed Hooters has a ferry to the game. But a certain $ and you can take the ferry to the stadium for free... what a great idea! Is this new?

TPC

That was the first game I attended at the stadium and it made my weekend even though we didn't win. The 4th quarter was a mess, uuuggggghhhh, talk about aggravating.

copperfiend

They just don't have it this year. The defense looks slower. The running backs aren't getting any holes. Garrard and Matt Jones have stepped up but the other receivers have been below average.  The season isn't over but it's going to be tought to get back to the playoffs.

I-10east

#8
Way to go D. Koetter!!!! :-[ >:( :-[

Yeah, let's run straight down the throat of probably the best freakin defensive tackle(CLE's NT) in freakin' football!!!!!!__That made me so damn mad!!!__Hey Koetter, try running on the OUTSIDE for a change; Afterall, that's were MJD picked up the first down.

Hey "HH" Gregg Williams, try to send A SAFETY, or a CORNERBACK when our front four aren't gettin' to Anderson!!!!

I hate to say it, but the Jags are gonna be anywhere from 7-9, to 9-7; Not enough to make the playoffs; We digged ourselves in a hole, so now we hafta lie in it. I'm still a die-hard though. :)

Shwaz

Here we go with the blame the coaches crap.
Gregg Williams is dealing with the same problems we had last year.. PERSONEL. You're not going to just come right in and turn a couple rookies and a few old men into Bruce Smith in his prime. Go ahead and send the house.. safety/ corner blitzes have resulted in 1 thing over the last 2 years.. huge offensive gains.

If that doesn't work just blame Dirk K for running the ball up the middle on a team that ranks 24th in the league in rushing defense. We've seen 7 games that were decided by 7 points or less. A play here or there in any of those losses could've been the difference. Blame the 11 guys on the field, or injuries or the ref's... the coaches have called the right plays they just weren't executed.
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GatorShane

This is getting serious! We need to go 8-1 over the rest of the year and finish 11-5. That might not even be good enough because  3 teams outside of division already own tie-breakers over us. I am not going to bash the team but it seems like we have been watching the same movie over and over for 14 years. IMO only 2 players have stepped it up this year, Matt Jones and Josh Scobee. If I have to watch Reggie Williams do one of his stupid dances after a 4 yard catch one more time I am going to explode. I realize that a play or 2 here or there could have us at 5-2 or 6-1. I love these guys but it is very frustrating to watch this week after week, year after year. GO JAGS!

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: GatorShane on October 27, 2008, 04:07:32 PM
This is getting serious! We need to go 8-1 over the rest of the year and finish 11-5. That might not even be good enough because  3 teams outside of division already own tie-breakers over us. I am not going to bash the team but it seems like we have been watching the same movie over and over for 14 years. IMO only 2 players have stepped it up this year, Matt Jones and Josh Scobee. If I have to watch Reggie Williams do one of his stupid dances after a 4 yard catch one more time I am going to explode. I realize that a play or 2 here or there could have us at 5-2 or 6-1. I love these guys but it is very frustrating to watch this week after week, year after year. GO JAGS!

Haha, year after year?! I dunno man...i share the intensity of your frustrations, but I think you've gone a little far acting like we've struggled for decades. For a franchise thats played 13 seasons, we've had more than a reasonable amount of success. Don't act like we're the Cubs or Clippers or Arizona Cardinals...or any team from Cleveland. Those guys have all suffered for lifetimes (or more).

ProjectMaximus

forgot to end with a...GO JAGS!

Keith-N-Jax

I think the coaches do have accept some of the blame on this one, as some one said why were they trying to keep running up the middle, it hadnt work the entire game. The Zebras cant be blamed on this one, the Jags D made stupid mistakes and were not keeping the gaps and were just man handle up front,,poor tackling once again and did anyone see how far ahead Edwards was on Mathis on that bomb. How does he get beat like that and were was the safety. I think offense is the only reason the point spread has been 7 or less. As far as the receivers go they are getting open. Referring to Porter and Williams, but whats happening is DG is usually running for his life or he is just not scanning the field well. If you have dvr or tivo tape the game and you will see. Granted DG doesnt have time like we have, but he's not scanning the field well,because on occasion he has had time and eithers runs after he sees Matts not open or throws it away. IMO this season is over you cant possibly think the Jags will beat Tenn, Houston, and Indy when they play again. Also they are likey to lose 2 or more againts the remaining NFC teams, not to mention the Ravens at the End of the year.


The defensive line I think is where the first problems is Henderson, Spicer, Meir, etc these guys seem to be past their prime. We can only hope that Grooves and Harvey will continue to improve over time, and our offense will get another Jimmy Smith, Matt Jones has step up, but he's no Jimmy. I am glad to see some one step up on that receiving core. Williamson and Walker my be next.(if they stay heatlthy) Still dont know whats up the million dollar Porter. In the end can you believe after all what happen Sunday we still had a chance to win. Go Jags!!!!

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 27, 2008, 09:28:36 PM
I think the coaches do have accept some of the blame on this one, as some one said why were they trying to keep running up the middle, it hadnt work the entire game. The Zebras cant be blamed on this one, the Jags D made stupid mistakes and were not keeping the gaps and were just man handle up front,,poor tackling once again and did anyone see how far ahead Edwards was on Mathis on that bomb. How does he get beat like that and were was the safety. I think offense is the only reason the point spread has been 7 or less. As far as the receivers go they are getting open. Referring to Porter and Williams, but whats happening is DG is usually running for his life or he is just not scanning the field well. If you have dvr or tivo tape the game and you will see. Granted DG doesnt have time like we have, but he's not scanning the field well,because on occasion he has had time and eithers runs after he sees Matts not open or throws it away. IMO this season is over you cant possibly think the Jags will beat Tenn, Houston, and Indy when they play again. Also they are likey to lose 2 or more againts the remaining NFC teams, not to mention the Ravens at the End of the year.


The defensive line I think is where the first problems is Henderson, Spicer, Meir, etc these guys seem to be past their prime. We can only hope that Grooves and Harvey will continue to improve over time, and our offense will get another Jimmy Smith, Matt Jones has step up, but he's no Jimmy. I am glad to see some one step up on that receiving core. Williamson and Walker my be next.(if they stay heatlthy) Still dont know whats up the million dollar Porter. In the end can you believe after all what happen Sunday we still had a chance to win. Go Jags!!!!

You first said the coaches have to accept blame, and then your entire post blamed the players! Like I said, I think it's up to the players so I agree with most of what you said. As far as the season being over, my point was that I think we can run the table on our division. I think we can win against the packers and vikings, and at baltimore and chicago. But we won't unless we play a good bit better. I don't know what it will take, but it can happen. Doesn't look likely, but all it takes is a few guys to start clicking, and certain units meshing well. We'll see. My other point was that, even if our record was 5-2 or even 6-1, if we can't step up and get hot  at the end of the year and beat the aforementioned teams, then even if we secured a playoff berth we wouldn't get very far in the postseason anyway.

Recap: season's not over, players need to play better, if we aren't 5-4 going into the game against tennessee then yes, the season will be over at that point.