Downtown Omni Hotel Sold

[thelakelander]

No. Autograph Collection is a different Marriott brand. They serve two different market niches.

[heights unknown]

Marriott Jacksonville Downtown:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/omni-jacksonville-to-become-a-marriott

Wow. I hope its successful.

[jaxlongtimer]

Marriott also operates the Southbank Hotel at Jacksonville Riverwalk Downtown and the Marriott Jacksonville on Salisbury Road.

I didn't realize Marriott operates the former Sheraton/Radisson/Wyndham/Lexington...whatever, hotel on the Southbank.  Doesn't appear to be flagged though under a Marriott brand.  What's up with that?

[acme54321]

Marriott also operates the Southbank Hotel at Jacksonville Riverwalk Downtown and the Marriott Jacksonville on Salisbury Road.

I didn't realize Marriott operates the former Sheraton/Radisson/Wyndham/Lexington...whatever, hotel on the Southbank.  Doesn't appear to be flagged though under a Marriott brand.  What's up with that?

It's a shithole so they probably don't want their name attached to it 

[jaxlongtimer]

Marriott also operates the Southbank Hotel at Jacksonville Riverwalk Downtown and the Marriott Jacksonville on Salisbury Road.

I didn't realize Marriott operates the former Sheraton/Radisson/Wyndham/Lexington...whatever, hotel on the Southbank.  Doesn't appear to be flagged though under a Marriott brand.  What's up with that?

It's a shithole so they probably don't want their name attached to it 

A shame.  When it originally opened as a Sheraton, it was a high end hotel.  With its river frontage and parking, it should be able to run as a higher level hotel.  I am surprised Related didn't target this property instead of River City Brewing as it offers many more and much greater possibilities.  Would have been better for them and the City.  As I recall, there was a proposal once to put several high-rise towers on this property but I think it died in the last recession.

[Steve]

The Southbank hotel is part of Marriott, and is under the "Delta Hotels" umbrella for them. I'm not sure I completely get it, though it's a tough time for hotels. I know Marriott has relaxed some brand standards at present, so there may be an interior renovation coming. They just did a ton of work on the place prior to selling, though I think that was largely exterior.

Marriott ownership tends to invest in their properties for brand standard (because Marriott makes them). I bet both of these properties get a significant interior change at some point.

[jaxjags]

Somehow I am starting to see the old Jacksonville paper mill attitude on this subject. Let's be positive about how a DT Marriott will probably increase DT activity. Marriott guest are very loyal to the brand and are probably tired of staying at the airport, as I did when I lived in ATL. Also please look at the room photos on the Marriott site for the Delta. I believe people are thinking about it was bad 10 years ago.

[thelakelander]

Delta was renovated a few years ago. I haven't seen the rooms but I have been in the lobby in recent months. It's a lot better now than it was a decade ago.

[acme54321]

It's better but still generally crappy and poorly maintained.  They didn't even finish with the renovations along the riverwalk.  They gave up after completing about 25% of the work on the old storefronts back there.

[fieldafm]

It's better but still generally crappy and poorly maintained.  They didn't even finish with the renovations along the riverwalk.  They gave up after completing about 25% of the work on the old storefronts back there.

The outbuildings are not owned by the hotel. They are owned by Ramon Llorens.  Same guy that owns the parking lot surrounding the hotel property.  He also owns quite a bit of land near Blount Island, the surface parking lot next to the Enterprise Center (old Wachovia building and old Omni hotel), the TIAA Bank Building, the old Ford factory at the foot of the Matthews Bridge, and the Greyhound station... which he tore down to build an illegal surface parking lot.

[fieldafm]

Marriott also operates the Southbank Hotel at Jacksonville Riverwalk Downtown and the Marriott Jacksonville on Salisbury Road.

I didn't realize Marriott operates the former Sheraton/Radisson/Wyndham/Lexington...whatever, hotel on the Southbank.  Doesn't appear to be flagged though under a Marriott brand.  What's up with that?

It's a shithole so they probably don't want their name attached to it 

A shame.  When it originally opened as a Sheraton, it was a high end hotel.  With its river frontage and parking, it should be able to run as a higher level hotel.  I am surprised Related didn't target this property instead of River City Brewing as it offers many more and much greater possibilities.  Would have been better for them and the City.  As I recall, there was a proposal once to put several high-rise towers on this property but I think it died in the last recession.

Apples to oranges.  The hotel leases the land underneath it.  A separate owner owns the large surface parking lot that surrounds the hotel property. He does not want to sell that land.

In the RCBC case, the leaseholder has been wanting to sell for years... and the landowner (COJ) has been wanting to sell the land for longer than that.

[jaxjags]

I don't get the negativity. Marriott now has a Ritz Carlton, THREE Marriott's, one Autograph(soon to be two), three DT hotels and 42 hotels in the area. I travelled in my business for 30+ years. Many Marriot owners told me that cooperate liked the Jax area. Good mix of leisure and corporate business. According to website the Residence Inn DT is scheduled to open in September.

[acme54321]

It's better but still generally crappy and poorly maintained.  They didn't even finish with the renovations along the riverwalk.  They gave up after completing about 25% of the work on the old storefronts back there.

The outbuildings are not owned by the hotel. They are owned by Ramon Llorens.  Same guy that owns the parking lot surrounding the hotel property.  He also owns quite a bit of land near Blount Island, the surface parking lot next to the Enterprise Center (old Wachovia building and old Omni hotel), the TIAA Bank Building, the old Ford factory at the foot of the Matthews Bridge, and the Greyhound station... which he tore down to build an illegal surface parking lot.

Maybe so, but they began renovating them while they were working on the hotel but then stopped while they were partially complete.  Looks like crap.

[fieldafm]

I don't get the negativity. Marriott now has a Ritz Carlton, THREE Marriott's, one Autograph(soon to be two), three DT hotels and 42 hotels in the area. I travelled in my business for 30+ years. Many Marriot owners told me that cooperate liked the Jax area. Good mix of leisure and corporate business. According to website the Residence Inn DT is scheduled to open in September.

The Brooklyn Marriott is training staff now and will likely be open before the end of the month.

Agree on negativity.

[fieldafm]

It's better but still generally crappy and poorly maintained.  They didn't even finish with the renovations along the riverwalk.  They gave up after completing about 25% of the work on the old storefronts back there.

The outbuildings are not owned by the hotel. They are owned by Ramon Llorens.  Same guy that owns the parking lot surrounding the hotel property.  He also owns quite a bit of land near Blount Island, the surface parking lot next to the Enterprise Center (old Wachovia building and old Omni hotel), the TIAA Bank Building, the old Ford factory at the foot of the Matthews Bridge, and the Greyhound station... which he tore down to build an illegal surface parking lot.

Maybe so, but they began renovating them while they were working on the hotel but then stopped while they were partially complete.  Looks like crap.

Not disagreeing with you, just adding context that the hotel owners have renovated their buildings.  The rest of the property is another owner's maleficence responsibility