RE: Homosexual Marriage & Christianity?

Ocklawaha · October 23, 2008, 12:46:49 PM

QuoteI never said anything about life being fair......I just don't agree with you saying that your God is better or more superior than any other persons God. I don't think people should go around preaching to people who don't even care about what they have to say. Because you sound ridiculous to me. Anything that is prejudice should be kept to yourself.

Marraige is being noticed in this country for legal and tax purposes. Does a sheet of paper say your married in your God's eyes? So, it really has nothing to do with religion. If two people want to get married for legal and tax purposes, I have no problem with that, even if they are of the same gender. No one ever said that your God has to recognize it. It would probably help the economy if more people were married!

Master of time and eternity - Creator of the Universe and all within and beyond - everlasting - all knowing and all powerfull would all fit the Christian view of God. If you worship a different god or goddess - who are we to condem you. There is no pre-judice in believing your house is better then living in a travel trailer, perhaps it is for you but not for the RV lover. Yet you "know" in your heart, yours is superior. This is why any message of the Christian Gospel should be given in love and by invitation to those who want to hear. If someone is preaching Krishna on the street corner, I myself, would sit and listen...Maybe even buy a book. But only for the purpose of a deeper understanding of other peoples hearts and beliefs. The Cross of Christ "SHOULD BE" the least offensive symbol in this world.

As for Gay Marriage, like I said, the Bible calls it a sin. I choose to live by the Bible, yet I consider a host of Gay and Lesbian citizens amoung my close friends. I'll attend the wedding and celebrate with them, I'll also pray for them to find the peace with God that I have. Not that they "Have to clean up their act" because that would be judgement - and in my Christian belief - ONLY GOD will judge. Do I think homosexuals will go to heaven? Well, does the average Christian believe that any of them are sinless? Which of us has "THAT" sin that's going to stop them at the door? Jesus just said "Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any man hears my voice and lets me in, I will dwell in him..." No where does it say "I stand at the "Straight" door and knock.

So Rachel if you need an old Hippie Christian to run barefoot through the park with... give me a call. EVERYONES invited.

OCKLAWAHA

Ocklawaha · October 23, 2008, 12:50:48 PM

Oh mye iff we's gonna go to blazes fer bad spelin, Im dead meat!

OCKLAWAHA

Driven1 · October 23, 2008, 12:53:03 PM

I like you Ock. You obviously know your stuff...and not just with the head knowledge way of knowing.

QuoteThe Cross of Christ "SHOULD BE" the least offensive symbol in this world.

actually, we all WISH it were that way, but we know from the scriptures that. "Christ is the stumbling block." He is extremely controversial because He does call us to choose whom we will serve - man or God. Just the mention of his name creates controversy.

Shwaz · October 23, 2008, 12:54:52 PM

Quotewas the flushed fishy perfect and sinless?

a hetero virgin too.

Thanks for the spell-check.. my posts are like the bible.. always open for interpretation.

Driven1 · October 23, 2008, 12:58:02 PM

Quote from: Shwaz on October 23, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
my posts are like the bible.. always open for interpretation.

to those who read it, yes, it is.

Shwaz · October 23, 2008, 01:03:33 PM

Quoteto those who read it, yes, it is

Find the meaning that works for you and call it "law" or "truth".

jacksonvilleconfidential · October 23, 2008, 01:06:24 PM

Is that you Driven? (the first one)

http://www.jacksonvilleconfidential.com/2007/09/masterpiece.html

"if you believe in Jesus you can stay here......I rebuke it in the name of the LORD!"

Driven1 · October 23, 2008, 01:14:32 PM

I do not mind being ridiculed, mocked and attacked for the cross of Christ.

Though I would rather that we just discuss the issues.

jacksonvilleconfidential · October 23, 2008, 01:15:10 PM

Quote from: Driven1 on October 23, 2008, 01:14:32 PM
I do not mind being ridiculed, mocked and attacked for the cross of Christ.

I kid, I kid. Just light hearted fun-poking.

The Compound · October 23, 2008, 01:17:52 PM

Quote from: Driven1 on October 23, 2008, 01:14:32 PM
I do not mind being ridiculed, mocked and attacked for the cross of Christ.

Though I would rather that we just discuss the issues.

Do you REALLY think this thread will end with a resololution? Seriously.

Driven1 · October 23, 2008, 01:20:45 PM

Quote from: The Compound on October 23, 2008, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on October 23, 2008, 01:14:32 PM
I do not mind being ridiculed, mocked and attacked for the cross of Christ.

Though I would rather that we just discuss the issues.

Do you REALLY think this thread will end with a resololution? Seriously.

Find a single thread on ANY topic on here that ends with resolution. None of them do. Shouldn't discourage civil discussion though.

Shwaz · October 23, 2008, 01:41:03 PM

thread is ghey

Ocklawaha · October 23, 2008, 04:32:58 PM

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QuoteI do not mind being ridiculed, mocked and attacked for the cross of Christ.

Though I would rather that we just discuss the issues.

Do you REALLY think this thread will end with a resololution? Seriously.

Doesn't really matter if it ends with resolution or not - there is perhaps one thing most all of us will agree to, straight, Christian, gay, lesbian, Mormon, Jew, JW, Krishna, Church of Christ, or free thinkers - we are blessed to be living in JACKSONVILLE.

OCKLAWAHA

GatorShane · October 23, 2008, 05:41:54 PM

Interesting comments about this topic. As a native of Jacksonville, I can tell you from experience that most people that oppose gay narriage hide behind their christian beliefs to try and convince people that two people of the same sex cannot fall in love, raise a family or contribute to society like straight people. Try being gay and catholic in J-ville. I try to respect everyones beliefs and opinions(I will admit it doesnt always work). The fact is that if you asked gay people if they are christian, a majority would probably say yes(in some form or anoyher). I guess my point is that the people behind ammendment 2 are not concerned about the sanctity of traditional marriage as much as they are about their dislike of the gay community. If they were there would be ammendments prohibiting divorce. Having said this I do agree that everyone has the rigt to believe in what they choose. I just wish that we just respect everyones opinions without taking them personally. Something I will work hard on. God bless everyone!

Driven1 · October 23, 2008, 06:07:09 PM

QuoteI guess my point is that the people behind ammendment 2 are not concerned about the sanctity of traditional marriage as much as they are about their dislike of the gay community.

i would like to set the record straight. i am against gay marriage. i could care less about the "gay community"...i mean, i don't ever think about it. don't ever criticize it or ridicule it (i could wish that the "gay community" would not criticize the Christian community as well). really - it is not a bother one way or the other to me. i have two friends who choose to be gay and that's it. i respect them just the same as my other friends. so - i prove your assertion wrong, don't I?

in regards to your assertion that... "If they were there would be ammendments prohibiting divorce. " your logic is that the institution of marriage is already flawed, so let's just break it all to pieces. OR - that is the way i view your assertion, at least.

i have been known to be wrong a time or two though.