Witness Comments on Shooting of 7-Year Old at Football Game

[Tacachale]

Community organizers and advocates are saying that people in the community know who the shooter is and are not talking...

Hardly surprising. Fear has a way of making people clam up.

Is that what it is Adam?

Fear of the repercussions for breaking omerta combined a lack of trust in the police to protect people are certainly likely factors.

[BridgeTroll]

Community organizers and advocates are saying that people in the community know who the shooter is and are not talking...

Hardly surprising. Fear has a way of making people clam up.

Is that what it is Adam?

Fear of the repercussions for breaking omerta combined a lack of trust in the police to protect people are certainly likely factors.

There are multiple ways to anonymously pass information to authorities...

[BridgeTroll]

Donald Foy (an unappreciated Jacksonville hero), and MADDADS think Jax has a code of silence issue...

http://maddadsjacksonville.com/

[Adam White]

Community organizers and advocates are saying that people in the community know who the shooter is and are not talking...

Hardly surprising. Fear has a way of making people clam up.

Is that what it is Adam?

Fear of the repercussions for breaking omerta combined a lack of trust in the police to protect people are certainly likely factors.

Not dissimilar to the dilemma facing many in Catholic/nationalist neighbourhoods in Northern Ireland.

I don't know why anyone would think it's any different in black communities than it is in white communities. Well, I can think of a reason why, but...

[bl8jaxnative]

If people held Duval County Schools to the 1/10th of standard they hold JSO, violence in JAX would be reduced by  half.

[Adam White]

If people held Duval County Schools to the 1/10th of standard they hold JSO, violence in JAX would be reduced by  half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VNFi1DLGHE

[BridgeTroll]

Community organizers and advocates are saying that people in the community know who the shooter is and are not talking...

Hardly surprising. Fear has a way of making people clam up.

Is that what it is Adam?

Fear of the repercussions for breaking omerta combined a lack of trust in the police to protect people are certainly likely factors.

Not dissimilar to the dilemma facing many in Catholic/nationalist neighbourhoods in Northern Ireland.

I don't know why anyone would think it's any different in black communities than it is in white communities. Well, I can think of a reason why, but...

http://maddadsjacksonville.com/

[Adam White]

Community organizers and advocates are saying that people in the community know who the shooter is and are not talking...

Hardly surprising. Fear has a way of making people clam up.

Is that what it is Adam?

Fear of the repercussions for breaking omerta combined a lack of trust in the police to protect people are certainly likely factors.

Not dissimilar to the dilemma facing many in Catholic/nationalist neighbourhoods in Northern Ireland.

I don't know why anyone would think it's any different in black communities than it is in white communities. Well, I can think of a reason why, but...

http://maddadsjacksonville.com/

[BridgeTroll]

Lol... cancel culture?  Go to the website and give me some open and honest feedback... supposedly that is what we are supposed to be doing.  Not you?

[Adam White]

Lol... cancel culture?  Go to the website and give me some open and honest feedback... supposedly that is what we are supposed to be doing.  Not you?

Huh? I have no idea what you mean about "cancel culture".

Anyway, your link has nothing to do with what I posted.

I said that fear works as a de-motivator and keeps people from blabbing. I then responded to Tachacale's post and said that it was not unlike the situation in Northern Ireland. And I questioned why people seem to think black people are somehow different in this respect than white people.

Your link has nothing to do with that. I am NOT questioning whether or not there is an issue with drugs, violence and social disorder. I am a) offering a possible explanation for why people *might* possibly know who the shooter is, yet aren't speaking up and b) questioning why *some* people seem to always assume the worst when it comes to black people.

[Adam White]

And while we're at it, it looks like Foy agrees with Tachacale:

"One of our primary goals is to get them to break the code of silence," says Donald Foy, the local MAD DADS president. Part of it is fear of retaliation — "snitches gets stitches," as the saying goes. But there's also something deeper, an ingrained distrust of the JSO that goes back decades, to a time when the cops were "coming in [to black neighborhoods] and terrorizing the community," Jordan says. "Now the community feels like they're the enemy. If you talk to the police, you snitching."

http://folioweekly.com/Breaking-the-Code-of-Silence,8607

[BridgeTroll]

Ah... actual dialogue!!!  Good job Adam!  I'm proud of you...

[Adam White]

Ah... actual dialogue!!!  Good job Adam!  I'm proud of you...

[BridgeTroll]

I  assure you Mr Foy does not assume the worst regarding black people. Mr Foy understands the code of silence is detrimental to ALL communities.  He and his organization canvas neighborhoods encouraging people to break the code and to empower the citizens... efforts such as his should be encouraged and supported... pretending it isn't a problem is dangerous for everyone...

I  appreciate your response and would like others to join the conversation... 

[Adam White]

I  assure you Mr Foy does not assume the worst regarding black people. Mr Foy understands the code of silence is detrimental to ALL communities.  He and his organization canvas neighborhoods encouraging people to break the code and to empower the citizens... efforts such as his should be encouraged and supported... pretending it isn't a problem is dangerous for everyone...

I  appreciate your response and would like others to join the conversation... 

I certainly don't think Foy thinks the worst of black people at all. The point I was trying to make (and may have failed) was that there are myriad reasons why people might clam up in circumstances such as this - and fear is a big one. I think Tachacale hit the nail on the head about distrust of the police, too. And I was surprised to see that Foy essentially articulated the same thing Tachacale said (I was unaware of Foy prior to this discussion).

There are many who seem to hold the 'black community' (I put that in quotes because it's probably fallacious to treat all black people as if they are some homogenous group) to a different standard than the 'white community' (same deal with the quotes). And that kind of goes back to some of the original comments on this thread - the ones I responded to (not yours, BT).

Whether or not there are problems with drugs or violence or social disorder in the 'black community' has nothing to do with BLM. BLM is a necessary response to police treatment of black people and systemic racism. I didn't interpret the woman's comments as being an indictment of BLM.

In any event, I hope the child recovers. It's sad he's lost his father. I hope the 'code of silence' is broken soon (assuming people actually know something) and the shooter is brought to justice.