JAX potential new host of 2020 GOP convention

[jaxlongtimer]

Those "tens of millions" Curry said were raised for the planned Jacksonville RNC convention?  NBC reports it was only $6 million.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-convention-cancellation-costing-gop-donors-millions-n1234896

Of the $38 million raised by the host committee for the convention's original location — Charlotte, North Carolina — the majority has been spent, the Republican officials said. The host committee in Jacksonville, Florida, where Trump had moved the convention, raised an additional $6 million, but GOP officials said much of that money remains.

Curry on the side of exaggeration again just like he was for the case being made that JEA was going to go down if it wasn't sold ASAP.  Like Trump, he "relies" on sources of information that tell him what he wants to hear without verification that he could easily get if he wanted it.  Then, when the truth comes out, he "plausibly" denies he knew otherwise.  A form of lying?  You decide.

[BridgeTroll]

Lol... he's a politician

[bl8jaxnative]

When the numbers get big, statistically rare occurrence become common. Pediatric ICU capacity is very small and some have even been converted to adult. I really hope that opening schools isn't gasoline on this fire.

You're arguing that when something gets wet enough it's dry.  Rare is rare.  it's always rare. 

Pediactic ICU is not a thing.  Not in the way you're tossing it around.   

[fieldafm]

When the numbers get big, statistically rare occurrence become common. Pediatric ICU capacity is very small and some have even been converted to adult. I really hope that opening schools isn't gasoline on this fire.

You're arguing that when something gets wet enough it's dry.  Rare is rare.  it's always rare. 

Pediactic ICU is not a thing.  Not in the way you're tossing it around.

You are trying to physiciansplain the wrong person, chief. Lunican is pretty familiar with pediatric ICUs.

[Steve]

When the numbers get big, statistically rare occurrence become common. Pediatric ICU capacity is very small and some have even been converted to adult. I really hope that opening schools isn't gasoline on this fire.

You're arguing that when something gets wet enough it's dry.  Rare is rare.  it's always rare. 

Pediactic ICU is not a thing.  Not in the way you're tossing it around.   

Not to pile on here, but knock yourself out if you want to debate this with Lunican. I'll get my popcorn.

[jaxlongtimer]

Trump to accept nomination in Charlotte after all:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/28/trump-republican-nomination-north-carolina-383950

Charlotte and North Carolina stuck to their principals and came out ahead of Jacksonville and Florida who prostituted themselves and were left by the curb just like "ladies of the night."  Are there lessons to be learned here?  I think so.

[marcuscnelson]

[marcuscnelson]

Good lord. We got played.

Actually, no. We played ourselves. That's even worse.

[MusicMan]

The lady Chair of the RNC said the problem was Democratic Governors "expanding their powers" was the reason for the cancellation. Seems they were threatening to force citizens from their states who were going to attend be forced into quarantine after returning from hotspot Florida.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-chairwoman-quarantines-in-democratic-led-states-made-gop-florida-convention-impossible/ar-BB17ksCx?li=BBnbfcL

I do not remember anyone mentioning it at the time. Only how Jax was simply unable to pull it off......lack of security, money, .....plus the Repub Governor here who could not get a handle on the virus outbreak.  Incredible divorce from reality sweeping the GOP.

[jaxlongtimer]

Given today's events, reading how Curry handled the RNC Convention is deja vu of his JEA sale approach:  A hell or high water, transparency-lacking, non-collaborative effort that ultimately crumbles with Curry trying to disassociate himself from the resulting debacle.

Curry on the side of exaggeration again just like he was for the case being made that JEA was going to go down if it wasn't sold ASAP.  Like Trump, he "relies" on sources of information that tell him what he wants to hear without verification that he could easily get if he wanted it.  Then, when the truth comes out, he "plausibly" denies he knew otherwise.  A form of lying?  You decide.

Good to know Nate Monroe and I are on the same page!  The below from his column today panning the Curry administration which echoes many of the comments on the Jaxson regarding decades of similar listless leadership in this city leading to its lackluster advancement.

His disastrous flirtation with the Republican National Convention contained all the touchstones of a Curryian tragedy: Unilateral action, bypassing the chance for community input, unpopularity, and the propping up of the effort with misleading statements that eventually unravel publicly.

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20200729/nate-monroe-has-mayor-given-up-on-job

[JaxJersey-licious]

If anyone is still wondering whether to put money on Trump accepting the GOP nomination in North Carolina, Florida, D.C., or anywhere else you may want to consider None Of The Above because based on his most recent musings there's more of a chance now that he'd consider the current presidential run a total shit show and bow out of the race.

The economy is tanking, more people are dying or getting sick through his handling of the virus, protests against him continue unabated, no more opportunities for big-time rallies, his campaign is a total mess, the Republican Party is on the verge of collapse, the Senate is no longer doing his bidding and ignoring him more while his beloved Fox News is becoming more and more critical of him, his ass-kissing Veep and two science nerds in his administration are way more popular than him, and he can no longer ignore the dire projections of the polls: All of this will give him the excuse to call the whole thing fixed, save the embarrassment of a historical election defeat, take his ball and go home. 

What stuck out most about the way this president "governs" that I feel is overlooked by many is that besides the prestige of being the leader of the free world there was a lot of fun being the president. Having this pulpit, ripping up trade deals just to create new ones he can boast he authored, meeting and befriending dictatorial strongmen, digging up dirt and humiliating opponents and critics, attending huge fawning rallies, everyone paying attention and reacting to his every tweet, dressing down storied career military leaders, these were the parts of his presidency he seemed to enjoy the most. And with the fun part of the office has mostly vanished this year, don't be surprised if his impulses to save face will weigh more than the possibility of being tarred a quitter on how this selfish asshat goes forward. He and his staff's waffling and sabotage of their own convention could be an indicator what he's leaning towards.   

[marcuscnelson]

If anyone is still wondering whether to put money on Trump accepting the GOP nomination in North Carolina, Florida, D.C., or anywhere else you may want to consider None Of The Above because based on his most recent musings there's more of a chance now that he'd consider the current presidential run a total shit show and bow out of the race.

The economy is tanking, more people are dying or getting sick through his handling of the virus, protests against him continue unabated, no more opportunities for big-time rallies, his campaign is a total mess, the Republican Party is on the verge of collapse, the Senate is no longer doing his bidding and ignoring him more while his beloved Fox News is becoming more and more critical of him, his ass-kissing Veep and two science nerds in his administration are way more popular than him, and he can no longer ignore the dire projections of the polls: All of this will give him the excuse to call the whole thing fixed, save the embarrassment of a historical election defeat, take his ball and go home. 

What stuck out most about the way this president "governs" that I feel is overlooked by many is that besides the prestige of being the leader of the free world there was a lot of fun being the president. Having this pulpit, ripping up trade deals just to create new ones he can boast he authored, meeting and befriending dictatorial strongmen, digging up dirt and humiliating opponents and critics, attending huge fawning rallies, everyone paying attention and reacting to his every tweet, dressing down storied career military leaders, these were the parts of his presidency he seemed to enjoy the most. And with the fun part of the office has mostly vanished this year, don't be surprised if his impulses to save face will weigh more than the possibility of being tarred a quitter on how this selfish asshat goes forward. He and his staff's waffling and sabotage of their own convention could be an indicator what he's leaning towards.   

You make some good points, but there's an argument you seem to have missed:

The Presidency is the only thing keeping him out of prison.

As soon as he no longer has the shield of Bill Barr's Justice Department to protect him, he becomes ripe for the taking by New York for state tax crimes, by federal attorneys for other offenses, plus probably some additional lawsuits we haven't heard about. Without the power of the Presidency, there becomes a substantial likelihood that he won't die a free man.

[JaxJersey-licious]

^^^^^ Yeah but it's a good chance he's gong to lose. Maybe he can try to fight it indefinitely but if he didn't want to run anymore I think he'll stay on and pardon a lot of people. He'll do the same with any charges from Congress or the Southern District of New York long enough to have as many of his interests protected by the time the shit hits the fan.

Speaking of things awaiting him once back in the real world, what must this guy's legal bills look like?! Just from his time in office, all the suits, injunctions, appeals; and we all now know how fucking leveraged he is. How many prez memoirs will he have to pretend to write or OANN shows he has to hosts to keep up payments to fight all the other suits coming his way?

I'm sure people like him and Deven Nunes gets some kind of bulk rate/celeb endorsement/free publicity legal fee deal but truth is taxpayers will ultimately be on the hook for all his convention debacles.

[vicupstate]

^^ A lot of Trump's legal bills thus far have been paid by his campaign or the RNC. No doubt that will continue until he is no longer President.   

[marcuscnelson]

In an interesting twist, it turns out that the RNC is technically coming to North Florida after all.

According to a New York Times correspondent, the RNC's winter meeting to choose its next chair will be held on January 6-8 at the Ritz-Carlton Amelia Island. The hotel will also serve as a hub for GOTV efforts in Georgia in the run-up to the runoffs on January 5th. Nate Monroe notes a likely non-existent economic impact on Jacksonville.