Jax and Coronavirus

[BridgeTroll]

Sorry you are right Troll.  There was lack of action in every way.  My bad.  Being a politician does not make you a leader

There very clearly was action. Very prudent and measured action. I do Highly suggest that you continue to stay at home and away from other people as your fear is palpable...

[jcjohnpaint]

Guys I hope you are right.  Don't get me wrong..
It sucks to wear a mask, social distancing, self isolating on and on, lose my job and money.  My wife works as a hospital first responder, so I do know the reality from what she can tell me, but I am afraid we are moving from Shitfest to do what you want free Americans way too quick without opening with ethical guidance on how to reopen.  I went to Costco today and they would not let anyone in the store without a mask.  Government should guide the way, especially to small businesses operations.

[jcjohnpaint]

Troll I really wish Hese southern governs are right bc I, like everyone want to move on, but there is the reality

[BridgeTroll]

JC... if you lost your job that certainly does suck and I am sorry to hear it... but that's one of the reasons the governor is reopening things... people and businesses are hurting... prudent and measured restrictions can get people back to work and protect society from the spread of the virus...

[jcjohnpaint]

Lives mean much more than money.  I can re earn, bout I can't have my wife back.  Maybe being too emotional, but it is hard.  When I see people disregarding safety I  feel very upset.

[BridgeTroll]

I do too... but reality is that it takes money to live... This usually requires working and commerce. We cannot stay "locked down " forever in the name of safety. Florida's situation is much different than New York or other harder hit area's and I think we can open some things up and still remain safe...

[sandyshoes]

To jcjohnpaint #342:  I'm going to write from my heart, so please - nobody try to correct me.  JC, I hear you and I get your feelings and worries.  I hate it too, that people who ought to be wearing masks and continuing to be cautious have abandoned their good sense;  they may never have had any in the first place but that's another story.  None of us has ever experienced a pandemic before.  There is no manual to tell us how to prepare, how to reopen, what to do...we're kind of flying by the seat of our pants as the expression goes.  It is a two-edged sword here.  I think if people would continue to wear masks, social distance and be cautious for a while longer, businesses could start to safely reopen and salvage what may be left of our economy.  We have to do it, but we have to do it intelligently.  There's the rub.  The streets are filling with drivers who think it's the autobahn now and they can zip in and out and speed;  some grocery store crowds are getting a little aggressive now, not wearing masks, not maintaining 6-feet, and shoving themselves right in front of you when you're trying to pick out decently priced eggs, fgs.  I'm speaking of Publix (why can't some people follow arrows correctly in the one-way aisles!) and Sam's.  Thank goodness COSTCO is promoting safety.  I love my loved ones too and I'm being forced to be safe for others who couldn't give a rat's patoot about my loved ones...doctors and staff in a specialist's office and not a ONE of them masked or gloved, while we almost had to give a blood sample just to sit down in their germy waiting room.  I feel it, JC, I totally get what you're saying.  And don't anybody ask me to define "a while" - because I don't know either.  I just know we have to reopen, but we have to be cautious.  Hang in there, buddy, it's all we can do.  All the best to you and yours.   

[jcjohnpaint]

Every day, I take a little time out of my day to watch Andrew Cuomo's briefing.  When I started to watch his analysis and action of our (unknown) situation/ or (invisible enemy), it didn't matter to me what his party is/ was.  Actually, I didn't know, to be honest, but I did perceive he was/is taking intelligent action regardless of (not knowing).  If we want to know the outcome of not knowing, we can all watch the president's briefing later in the day.  I think NY is in a much-improved state do to Cuomo's leadership.  The people that live in NY are not genetically different that Florida or Nevada.  The virus not being here as much as NY and Cali is not an issue of why, but when.  The spreading had and has a lot to do with travel and logistics.   
I think Costco was smart from the beginning.  The changes they adapted to their store for safety are minor compared to a few days after the outbreak.  They improved the situation, but had intelligently implemented these changes immediately. 
I think this is where the problem lies.  The businesses opening have no guidance from above (state or federal).  Costco is acting smart and taking some leadership, but some stores are not.  Remember, a far superior race does not shop at Costco vs. Orsay (where I see massive crowds grouped outside not wearing masks. 
Now we can say some businesses are being smart while others are choosing to careless, but the problem is much bigger than that.  It was obvious if we open without strict guidance, there would be inconsistencies all over the place.  The virus spread of the virus is not due to quality of coffee at a particular coffee shop. 
The people that are shopping at Costco are following the rules because they have to or they will have to leave and kudos to them. 
My personal opinion is that the people are chaotic and businesses are run by people.  Some businesses have good leadership or management and some do not. 
We vote on politicians for 2 things (day to day running of a territory and smart action in a time of crisis). 
It is the second one that I am having trouble here.  For a government to (just open) without some guidance is frightening to me// You don't have to be a master of human psychology to know that a restaurant that is not following hygene rules in this situation will cause problems.  It was also easy to predict that some businesses would not follow the rules and probably could have used a rule book to follow. 

Now, I might be wrong and I sure hope I am, but remember Democrats want to get the F out of their house and work too, I think we could have used (some kind of system) that would have cut down on the chaos.  And I know:  This is a free country, but another person's freedom does not end a foot past my face.  Every irresponsible person in this situation puts my wife at risk and every first line responders at risk.  It puts our small children and elderly at risk.  And overall, it puts our economy at risk/ because if this all hits the fan again, we are right back where we started. 

[jcjohnpaint]

thought this was interesting:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/costco-employee-going-super-viral-161700380.html
Maybe I am asking certain leaders of states to act this way! 
Kudos to this employee!

[sandyshoes]

Totally agree with you, JCJohnpaint! 

[BridgeTroll]

Will you comply with a mandatory federal government Covid inoculation program if one should occur?  Would you carry your "proof of inoculation papers" to present to authorities if asked?

[Peter Griffin]

Why bother watching Cuomo's addresses? He's in NY, the epicenter of infection in the US. NYC has more cases than any other entire STATE. You're doing yourself a disservice by consuming media which is designed to scare you.

The people who don't wear masks aren't trying to hurt you or your family, you have no idea what they're going through themselves, nor can you ascribe intent onto their actions. Being cautious is a good idea, acting and thinking in fear of your fellow human is detrimental to your mental health.

Do yourself a favor and unplug from the news and social media for a bit. Sensationalism sells, and it's enthralling to consume, but it ultimately does you almost no good and doesn't provide useful information in your day-to-day functioning. 

[Tacachale]

Will you comply with a mandatory federal government Covid inoculation program if one should occur?  Would you carry your "proof of inoculation papers" to present to authorities if asked?

I'm getting in line for an inoculation as soon as one's available.

[Ken_FSU]

Will you comply with a mandatory federal government Covid inoculation program if one should occur?  Would you carry your "proof of inoculation papers" to present to authorities if asked?

I'm getting in line for an inoculation as soon as one's available.

Ditto.

Day one.

[BridgeTroll]

Will you comply with a mandatory federal government Covid inoculation program if one should occur?  Would you carry your "proof of inoculation papers" to present to authorities if asked?

I'm getting in line for an inoculation as soon as one's available.

Ditto.

Day one.

Me also... but how is it enforced?  Are you issued a inoculation Card?  What about those who refuse?  Deny entry to movie theaters... busses... airlines...?  How much enforcement/intrusion is proper/appropriate?