The city to sod Jacksonville Landing site

[billy]

slip'n'slide?
topiary Molly Hatchet?
pop up Lubi's?
The Fountain of Natty Light ?

[thelakelander]

If I had to put money on it.....city hall annex/courthouse lawn, Jax shipyards, LaVilla, new county courthouse lawn, JEA Southside Generation plant site, etc. is where things are headed here for the foreseeable future. A place for an ocassional event where marketing photos of vibrancy are taken, but pretty much dead and void of activity 90% of the time.

[MusicMan]

Does Rummell's deal with JEA require him to start pretty soon, correct?  If he doesn't , does he have to sell it? Give it back?
I don't know those details.

Can he sit on it for 15 years the way Regency has done in San Marco?

[thelakelander]

Doubt anyone else wants it at this point:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-grants-suspensions-to-the-district-jones-bros-furniture-projects

[heights unknown]

Ya da ya da ya da ya da ya da!

[heights unknown]

Here y'all go. Feel free to forward to Curry and Company.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=mXOTBmUD&id=64DA8D3E8DD30B6F97C90A575E2DE9EDA0768BF2&thid=OIP.aFR7Uj75vvC5jFLm6vrz4wHaFj&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2f3.bp.blogspot.com%2f-wIzHMmesPs8%2fUE7vxiTJ_xI%2fAAAAAAAABB4%2fCEcQs-8XkKs%2fs1600%2fsod-installation.jpg&exph=300&expw=400&q=Home+Depot+Grass+Sod&simid=608006118557090545&selectedIndex=1&ajaxhist=0

[heights unknown]

The name of this movie is: "The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman;" about a black woman who grew up from a little girl to over 100 years old in the South. If y'all have time, watch the whole movie (most of you whipper snappers have never seen it); but please, in particular, go to 50:47 to 51:20 and check out that part of the movie (scene). It reminds me of Mayor Lenny Curry. He doesn't know what he wants to do, then forgets what he has promised, and then does something else or totally different. It's funny. Just click on the link and go to 50:47 to 51:20. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSDlm2LqAes&list=PLWQweWz4x6kVqFsjc5ubSQM5MasI3z0XE

[vicupstate]

^^ I remember that movie. I was in elementary school when it aired. It was 'Roots' before there was 'Roots'.  All the kids talked about it the next day.   
I don't think historians realize how much TV programs like Jane Pittman, Roots and All In The Family changed attitudes in the South among whites towards blacks.   

[thelakelander]

How did they change the attitudes? The impact of these movies are something I've always wondered about. Several years ago, I asked my dad about what did he feel when watching Roots for the first time. His response was that he lived during segregation. The last thing he wanted to do was watch something like Roots and rekindle those childhood memories when he knew he'd get up and go to work the next day pissed off at every white person he'd come in contact with. So he's never made it through an entire episode.

[BridgeTroll]

Clearly viewed or not through different lenses achieved different results

[thelakelander]

More preditable information. Basically everything we warned against prior to the demolition has come true:

City spokesman James Croft said May 11 that the sodded Jacksonvlle Landing site Downtown will be available for events before it is redeveloped.

"The site will be a public greenspace for a period, like the Ford on Bay site following the old City Hall demolition, and can be reserved and permitted for special events by the City," Croft said in an email.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/sodded-jacksonville-landing-site-will-be-available-for-special-events

[marcuscnelson]

More preditable information. Basically everything we warned against prior to the demolition has come true:

City spokesman James Croft said May 11 that the sodded Jacksonvlle Landing site Downtown will be available for events before it is redeveloped.

"The site will be a public greenspace for a period, like the Ford on Bay site following the old City Hall demolition, and can be reserved and permitted for special events by the City," Croft said in an email.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/sodded-jacksonville-landing-site-will-be-available-for-special-events

[Captain Zissou]

You could probably put a decent music festival between the main parcel, hogan street, and the parking lot, but i have a feeling that this is not what the city had in mind.  Can't wait for the 2021 Climate Change Deniers and Traditional Family Values BBQ, sponsored by Hobby Lobby.

[vicupstate]

How did they change the attitudes? The impact of these movies are something I've always wondered about. Several years ago, I asked my dad about what did he feel when watching Roots for the first time. His response was that he lived during segregation. The last thing he wanted to do was watch something like Roots and rekindle those childhood memories when he knew he'd get up and go to work the next day pissed off at every white person he'd come in contact with. So he's never made it through an entire episode.

A black woman I use to work with had a similar reaction to "Roots" in that it stirred up anger among the people she interacted with at the time. I was in 8th grade when it aired. Actually, it made me quite angry too, to see the inhumane cruelty. Like the 'Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman' had earlier, it really opened a lot of eyes and presented the 'other side' of the story.  I think I can speak for myself and my white peers of the time, to say that we had been exposed mostly to the sanitized 'Gone With The Wind' version of Southern history.  As a young boy growing up I was told stories of the exploits of my Confederate ancestors.  All of sudden those heroes didn't seem like heroes any more.

Roots was not just a mini-series on TV (which itself was a new concept at the time), it really was a cultural EVENT. It was eight consecutive nights so it really dominated everyone's TV viewing for that whole period. Back then there were no cable channels, and it smashed all the Neilson rating records. It was definitely the talk of all the kids at school, particularly the kids I rode the school bus with. I also remember reading in the newspaper about the national dialogue it was creating and the record breaking ratings. It also created an explosion of interest in Genealogy, for both races.                           

I remember watching it again when it ran in re-runs and then the sequel 'Roots: The Next Generations'. It was well written, well acted, and it never got slow. I was a history buff to begin with since 3rd grade, so it appealed to me on that level obviously.

'All in the Family' was truly groundbreaking too. It was controversial from the start as it was the first TV show to say the word 'Damn'. Believe it or not, that was a big deal at the time. It really shined a light on prejudice and stereotypes (many of which I hadn't been exposed to) without being preachy but yet still making them look foolish and something you didn't want to be a part of.

I found this article on Roots that you might find interesting: https://www.vulture.com/2016/05/roots-miniseries-ratings-were-off-the-charts.html
         

[heights unknown]

More preditable information. Basically everything we warned against prior to the demolition has come true:

City spokesman James Croft said May 11 that the sodded Jacksonvlle Landing site Downtown will be available for events before it is redeveloped.

"The site will be a public greenspace for a period, like the Ford on Bay site following the old City Hall demolition, and can be reserved and permitted for special events by the City," Croft said in an email.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/sodded-jacksonville-landing-site-will-be-available-for-special-events

Where's my Cows? They'll take care of that damn grass...that'll show them!