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Jax and Coronavirus

Started by sanmarcomatt, March 13, 2020, 01:58:24 PM

Lunican


Steve

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Quote from: Lunican on March 30, 2020, 11:04:37 AM
This is a nice dashboard (not mobile friendly)  https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Interesting - not sure I'm buying all of the numbers though. Any county I click on (in New York, Florida, wherever), it's saying 0 people recovered, which obviously isn't logical.

Though the cases and death numbers seem to be in line with what I've seen.

Edit - I also think it would helpful if organizations broke out hospitalizations. The number of cases obviously has a major statistical flaw in that we're not testing everyone or a statistical sample of the population - we're only testing people that have some sort of symptoms or (in Jacksonville's case) first responder/healthcare worker. This obviously results in a much higher rate of positive tests.

My personal belief is if we had a way to test every American every 2 weeks, the number of cases would skyrocket, though hospitalizations and deaths would remain where they are. I'm sure this would hold true in other places.

Lunican

China and Europe have recovered numbers. I think it's just too soon to list people as recovered in the U.S.

Steve

Quote from: Lunican on March 30, 2020, 12:17:27 PM
China and Europe have recovered numbers. I think it's just too soon to list people as recovered in the U.S.

I suppose, but if a person was in a hospital with a confirmed case then was released, wouldn't that count?

Lunican

No, they are very slow closing cases unless the person dies. Not sure how long it takes though.

tufsu1

Quote from: Lunican on March 30, 2020, 12:17:27 PM
China and Europe have recovered numbers. I think it's just too soon to list people as recovered in the U.S.

The Hopkins website has begun to show recoveries for the US - but only at the national level

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

BridgeTroll

#142
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Snaketoz

The devil made him do it!
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

thelakelander

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on March 30, 2020, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 30, 2020, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: sanmarcomatt on March 30, 2020, 10:01:13 AM
On a serious note, the estimated peak for Florida is looking pretty ugly.

Do you have a link to this estimate?

Oops. Thought I linked it. This one is based upon peak hospital resources...US at 4/15 while Florida is 5/3(!).

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

FTU has an article up on projected deaths by August:

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20200330/coronavirus-deaths-in-florida-projected-to-hit-6766-by-august
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Charles Hunter

Curry issues "Safer At Home" order, beginning 12:01 AM Friday
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/04/01/mayor-curry-issuing-safer-at-home-order-for-jacksonville/

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Even now, not everyone is doing their part to flatten the curve," the mayor said. "So for this downward trend to continue, we must remain vigilant and do more to protect our city. To that end, effective Friday at 12:01 a.m., I'm issuing a new safer-at-home executive order mandating that citizens stay in their homes except for critical and essential needs."

Essential businesses will continue to operate, Curry said. These include health care providers, grocery stores, gas stations, media organizations, banks and financial institutions and assisted-living facilities, among others.

"While we are confident that citizens will be much safer at home in the coming weeks, I want to make it clear that this executive order does not restrict people's ability to go outside to take a walk or ride a bike," the mayor said. "This only prevents residents from traveling to businesses deemed nonessential."

Complete list of essential services and businesses: https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/04/01/what-is-considered-an-essential-business/

Steve

Agree with Curry here. I'll say again: My opinion of him has done a complete 180 over the last few months. I still think the JEA fiasco needs to be investigates and his downtown Khanville philosophy is, well, odd. But, he's handled this thing as well as I think he could have.

DeSantis has taken a step back IMO. He was slow to respond, seemed to catch up and do a little better, then recently has seemed to be timid, waiting on Trump's lead. This isn't the time to wait on someone else.

Trump, well, has been as I expected him to be. Pence has done a better job IMO (never saw that coming). Thank god Trump seems to be listening to Fauci and Birx.

Charles Hunter

^ No, there are some business that will have to close - retail stores that don't sell one of the many "essential" things.  Now, could a clothing store add "cell phone chargers" or "handi-wipes" and become "essential"?  Or, scarves or bandanas as "CDC Covid Masks"?

thelakelander

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on April 01, 2020, 11:47:16 AM
Here is the official list of businesses that have to close starting Friday:





LOL, that was my initial thought when I read through the press release.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Ken_FSU

Baffling that bookstores, for example, are deemed nonessential, but you can still walk into a gun store and get an AK-47.

This isn't Jacksonville-specific, seems to be happening all over the country.