Jax and Coronavirus

[sanmarcomatt]

Clearly this week things finally started to get real for people. No sports! Tom Hanks!

We are starting to see the effects locally with first cases and  many events cancelled. Hopefully, it will not be too bad here health wise but I fear at the very least,  some small businesses will not be able to withstand a prolonged event.

Personally, I went to Publix today and the run on certain things had clearly started. The cashier  even booted two of my boxes of Kleenex! My bad, didn't realize there was a limit of 2. Could get interesting soon.
On the entertainment front, We went out to dinner last night and it was pretty busy...didn't notice much difference.We are currently on the fence on whether we will dramatically reduce activity...of course it may not be our choice in the coming days/weeks.

Crazy times.

[Kerry]

The public, at the urging of the media and politicans, have gone bat-crap crazy.  There are less that 1400 active cases in the entire US.  I'm not changing anything about my life that I have control over.  Was supposed to go to a concert tonight but that got canceled and then was headed to the St Pete Grand Prix tomorrow, but that is also cancelled.  So guess we'll just go garage sales tomorrow.  Flying to Chicago on Monday for work.

[Charles Hunter]

I guarantee there are more than 1400 cases in the US.  With the way testing has been royally effed up, we have no idea how many cases there are.  Some countries are conducting more tests EVERY DAY than the US has done in total. Also, federal and state health officials are being secretive about potential cases.

Did you see the Mayor's presser at noon? The guy from JFRD (I tuned in late, was he a JFRD, or Union, spokesperson) was clearly pissed they had not been advised they were responding to a potential COVID-19 case. Had they been told, they first-responders could have worn appropriate protective gear.

My wife and I are "elderly" (but not super-elderly >80) and have underlying health conditions. We have family members who are immune compromised due to their own underlying health conditions.  We have other family members, and close friends, who work in local hospitals. Am I bat-shit crazy? Don't think so, but do have heightened concern.

Even if you don't "get" COVID-19, you can transmit it to others.  So, be careful out there.

[Adam White]

Can't comment on the media, but the reason for cancelling stuff is to limit the spread of the virus and try to get hospitals from being overwhelmed.

[Snaketoz]

I don't think we are bat shit crazy at all.  In fact, we may turn out to be bat shit crazy for under estimating the seriousness of our current situation.  There are reports of people exposed to the virus being told they are not in "the class of people approved for testing".  If you come in contact with a person who has tested positive for CV, why are health officials telling people who haven't been overseas they can't be tested?  That is bat shit crazy!  In this country, no matter the subject, politics out weighs science.  Nobel prize winning scientists are called alarmist, socialist leaning weirdos by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, and our "non main stream" media.  If you want to believe entertainers over scientists, you are surely BSC.

[Adam White]

I don't think we are bat shit crazy at all.  In fact, we may turn out to be bat shit crazy for under estimating the seriousness of our current situation.  There are reports of people exposed to the virus being told they are not in "the class of people approved for testing".  If you come in contact with a person who has tested positive for CV, why are health officials telling people who haven't been overseas they can't be tested?  That is bat shit crazy!  In this country, no matter the subject, politics out weighs science.  Nobel prize winning scientists are called alarmist, socialist leaning weirdos by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, and our "non main stream" media.  If you want to believe entertainers over scientists, you are surely BSC.

Well, if it makes Limbaugh, Hannity, etc feel any better, our right wing government over here has decided to allow 60% (at least) of the population to contract the virus in order to build 'herd immunity'. Who cares about all the old and unwell people who will die doing this! And I totally believe that this has nothing to do with protecting the economy. I guess after shooting themselves (and the economy) in the foot with Brexit, they don't want to take any more chances...

[Adam White]

My wife's grandmother is in an assisted living facility in Jax. One of the residents there apparently tested positive, so they're not allowing visitors.

[I-10east]

Well, if it makes Limbaugh, Hannity, etc feel any better, our right wing government over here has decided to allow 60% (at least) of the population to contract the virus in order to build 'herd immunity'. Who cares about all the old and unwell people who will die doing this! And I totally believe that this has nothing to do with protecting the economy. I guess after shooting themselves (and the economy) in the foot with Brexit, they don't want to take any more chances...

Sources??? Let me guess, Buzzfeed....It's the other side that said Trump is racist for banning travel from China in the midst of this coronavirus.... It's CNN and MSNBC that went into fearmonger overdrive with this situation...Screw the economy, trying to create world diplomacy, common sense etc, everything is about racial social injustices (or lack of) with the looney left, absolutely everything.

[Adam White]

Well, if it makes Limbaugh, Hannity, etc feel any better, our right wing government over here has decided to allow 60% (at least) of the population to contract the virus in order to build 'herd immunity'. Who cares about all the old and unwell people who will die doing this! And I totally believe that this has nothing to do with protecting the economy. I guess after shooting themselves (and the economy) in the foot with Brexit, they don't want to take any more chances...

Sources??? Let me guess, Buzzfeed....It's the other side that said Trump is racist for banning travel from China in the midst of this coronavirus.... It's CNN and MSNBC that went into fearmonger overdrive with this situation...Screw the economy, trying to create world diplomacy, common sense etc, everything is about racial social injustices (or lack of) with the looney left, absolutely everything.

There's a certain irony about a guy who regularly relies on YouTube as a source complaining about Buzzfeed.

Believe it or not, I might actually be a bit more attuned to what's happening in the UK. But you asked for a source, so:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402

In an open letter, a group of 229 scientists from UK universities say the government's current approach will put the NHS under additional stress and "risk many more lives than necessary".
The signatories also criticised comments made by Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's chief scientific adviser, about managing the spread of the infection to make the population immune.

https://www.ft.com/content/38a81588-6508-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea68b5

But Sir Patrick told Sky News that experts estimated that about 60 per cent of the UK's 66m population would have to contract coronavirus in order for society to build up immunity.

"Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term," he said. "About 60 per cent is the sort of figure you need to get herd immunity."

In another interview with the BBC, Sir Patrick said: "If you suppress something very, very hard, when you release those measures it bounces back and it bounces back at the wrong time."

He added: "Our aim is to try to reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it."

[I-10east]

^^^My bad. You were talking about the UK (where you are at now) not the US. Sorry about that (I got confused when you mentioned Hannity and Limbaugh, American media figures). That depopulation ploy in the UK is absolutely insane.

[Adam White]

^^^My bad. You were talking about the UK (where you are at now) not the US. Sorry about that (I got confused when you mentioned Hannity and Limbaugh, American media figures). That depopulation ploy in the UK is absolutely insane.

No worries. I apologise for getting my back up so easily.

Looks like our gov't might be making some changes, owing to backlash. But I still think we're not going to see mass quarantines like other countries are doing.

[Bill Hoff]

Sounds as if the Mayor is considering acting to shut down restaurants & bars, if I'm translating his tweets correctly.

If the governor doesn't do it first, I guess.

[Charles Hunter]

For those of us avoiding Twitter, care to summarize?

[thelakelander]

Looking at his twitter feed....

Councilman Sam Newby has tested positive and is in St. Vincent's. Councilman Randy White visited him within the last 48 hours and is now in self isolation.

Beginning Tuesday, grab and go lunch and snacks will be available for students at curbside near their nearest school location

Curry will provide a live update to media tomorrow morning after a special council meeting on the state of emergency

Curry was disappointed to see pictures of large gatherings with wall to wall people all over town this weekend

Says COJ has the ability to implement curfews, restrict patrons at businesses and/or close them if necessary to protect the community

[Charles Hunter]

Thanks.
Will they limit attendance at Council meeting (now 17 members, temporarily) to 50, to comply with the CDC guidance?