TOD near Kings St garage

Started by jagsonville, January 28, 2020, 05:34:18 PM

jagsonville

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/jta-courting-residential-and-retail-project-on-downtown-southbank

Still preliminary but looks like JTA is finally offloading some property north of their Kings Street garage to a joint venture comprising Corner Lot for some sort of mixed use development. The lot is 3.8 acres which is the same as broadstone's so we could be looking at something around 5-6 stories tall if they use the Kings Street garage for parking. Anyone have any more insight on this project?

acme54321

This is a lot more realistic than the district.  Would be great if they could tie it in to the king's Ave area with a park or something under the overland bridge.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

No inside info,  but both Live Oak and Summit have been building a ton of multi-family in the area.  With Chance currently has 3 developments under construction in San Marco- Promenade and Commons A/ B. 

None of the properties I'm familiar with have been mixed use, though.
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JPalmer

SM Promenade was given an amendment to take out most of the retail that was originally proposed as Jackson square.  However, I do believe there is still a minimum square footage of retail that has to be developed.  Not sure if it will come as a 2nd phase, but I would assume the southern end of the property, where the big pile of dirt currently sits is earmarked the retail portions and there will be room to grow that.


thelakelander

SM Promenade's 10,000 square feet of retail will be located on the north side of the main entrance from US 1. The new plan is to construct the second phase of apartments first, before adding in the retail.
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bl8jaxnative

I'd be happy if they built zero retail back there.

JPalmer

Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 10, 2020, 09:57:19 AM
I'd be happy if they built zero retail back there.

Why?  What would be wrong with having some amenity type businesses that could offer some level of convenience to residents. 

220 Riverside should be looking into companies like 7-11 to fill the open store fronts and provide a benefit to their residents.

jagsonville

Quote from: JPalmer on February 10, 2020, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 10, 2020, 09:57:19 AM
I'd be happy if they built zero retail back there.

Why?  What would be wrong with having some amenity type businesses that could offer some level of convenience to residents. 

220 Riverside should be looking into companies like 7-11 to fill the open store fronts and provide a benefit to their residents.

I agree, 7-11, Starbucks, Waffle House or something with lower price points could do well in those spaces. I'm hoping that 200 riverside and the vestcor project behind it will spur those spaces to get leased.

bl8jaxnative

Quote from: jagsonville on February 10, 2020, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: JPalmer on February 10, 2020, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 10, 2020, 09:57:19 AM
I'd be happy if they built zero retail back there.

Why?  What would be wrong with having some amenity type businesses that could offer some level of convenience to residents. 

220 Riverside should be looking into companies like 7-11 to fill the open store fronts and provide a benefit to their residents.


What sort of business can make a go of things here????    Maybe if something happens with the old generating station site.  Until then they'd just be building empty space.

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I agree, 7-11, Starbucks, Waffle House or something with lower price points could do well in those spaces. I'm hoping that 200 riverside and the vestcor project behind it will spur those spaces to get leased.

marcuscnelson

Update on this project:

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2021/01/15/jta-jan-14-2021-board-meeting.html

QuoteThe board also approved, by a 4-0 vote, for Ford to negotiate and execute a lease with the Corner Lot Development Group, LLC. For a 3.8-acre parcel of land between Montana Avenue and Broadcast Place near the Southbank.

The 40-year agreement calls for Corner Lot Development Group to build 340 multi-family residential units and retail space on the property. The first-year rent on the property would be $272,000 and increase 2 percent in each of the two years to follow.

The property is part of the Transit-Oriented Development model that the authority has pushed in recent years. The Montana Street project would be within walkable distance between the Kings Avenue Skyway station as well as other modes of public transportation.
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bl8jaxnative

As the crow flies, it's walkable.


The devil will be in the details.  There's not a proper way to walk from that property to the Kings avenue station right now.  They'll have to add some infrastructure under I95 there.  And/or they'll have to update that big parking lot to the north to have a walkway / through road.

MusicMan

Is this the parcel roughly adjacent to The District and the parking lots serving the 2 large Baptist Health blds?

Captain Zissou

Quote from: MusicMan on February 10, 2021, 09:58:12 AM
Is this the parcel roughly adjacent to The District and the parking lots serving the 2 large Baptist Health blds?

This is between those parking lots and broadcast place.