2019 Women's World Cup

Started by Kiva, June 09, 2019, 04:42:41 PM

wanderson91

Quote from: Kiva on July 02, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
That was a good game. It was hard fought and pretty even in terms of possession. Great result! So next is either Sweden or Netherlands. We've already beaten Sweden 2-0 in this World Cup but Netherlands are favorites to win tomorrow.

I wouldn't even think about that Sweden game as a meter for anything. I'm happy the US won that game, but Sweden also didn't play with their usual starting lineup. I'd rather play the Netherlands (2017 Euro Champs) than Sweden.

Quote from: Snaketoz on July 02, 2019, 07:48:28 PM
I was really scared that England would prevail.  The US looked very good in first half, not so good in second.  Good win.

For some strange reason (and for the second game in a row) we fall back into a 5-2-3 in the second half, which is absurd, because we give up so much ground and possession, instead of continuing to push for more goals in the run of play. I need Ellis to not do that in the final, because, as we saw in this game, better teams can beat that formation. England had so many chances in the second half that didn't exist in the first half.

Snaketoz

Quote from: wanderson91 on July 03, 2019, 08:04:54 AM
Quote from: Kiva on July 02, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
That was a good game. It was hard fought and pretty even in terms of possession. Great result! So next is either Sweden or Netherlands. We've already beaten Sweden 2-0 in this World Cup but Netherlands are favorites to win tomorrow.

I wouldn't even think about that Sweden game as a meter for anything. I'm happy the US won that game, but Sweden also didn't play with their usual starting lineup. I'd rather play the Netherlands (2017 Euro Champs) than Sweden.

Quote from: Snaketoz on July 02, 2019, 07:48:28 PM
I was really scared that England would prevail.  The US looked very good in first half, not so good in second.  Good win.

For some strange reason (and for the second game in a row) we fall back into a 5-2-3 in the second half, which is absurd, because we give up so much ground and possession, instead of continuing to push for more goals in the run of play. I need Ellis to not do that in the final, because, as we saw in this game, better teams can beat that formation. England had so many chances in the second half that didn't exist in the first half.
It's as if the US took a page out of the Jaguars playbook.  Take the lead, stop scoring and play prevent defense.  They were mostly lucky to have prevailed.  I agree, they should have continued to push the ball forward and score more goals, or at least keep the ball in England's end of the pitch.  A lot of bad passes on both sides.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Snaketoz

U.S. women win the World Cup-again!
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Kiva

It was a good game. The Netherlands played well in defense and had some good opportunities. USA have a great team!

JeffreyS

The Dutch plan to stay back on defense came unraveled when the US got the PK. Good game,  to beat team USA you had better play perfect. Fantastic job by our team.
Lenny Smash

sandyshoes

I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

BridgeTroll

Quote from: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Tacachale

Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 08, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I agree - to clarify what I said earlier, my only issue was the running up the score. No problem with celebrating, especially when it's done in such a hilarious fashion.

I never feel more proud to be an American than when we beat Europeans at something they think they own.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Adam White

Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 08, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Tacachale

Quote from: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 08, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

The tea gesture is is a reference to the phrase "that's the tea", which comes from the Kermit the Frog meme. She says it was inspired by Sophie Turner, who's British. It wasn't a dig at the English except insofar as some English commentators like to pretend to be offended about things - for instance, it did piss off Piers Morgan, which is a plus.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Adam White

Quote from: Tacachale on July 08, 2019, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 08, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

The tea gesture is is a reference to the phrase "that's the tea", which comes from the Kermit the Frog meme. She says it was inspired by Sophie Turner, who's British. It wasn't a dig at the English except insofar as some English commentators like to pretend to be offended about things - for instance, it did piss off Piers Morgan, which is a plus.

Yeah, supposedly. I am familiar with the Kermit meme (though had forgotten about it) but wasn't aware of the expression. I am 50% convinced that she was referencing the meme. The other 50% thinks that was a made-up explanation after the furore erupted.

I didn't personally think it was that big of a deal - certainly not anything close to how Piers Morgan saw it. Just typical behaviour, really. The whole thing seems a bit of a storm in a teacup, if you ask me.

(Actually, I don't even think it was a storm in a teacup - I literally heard no one talking about it at all. The only places I saw it mentioned were in the press and in the real press [like the Indy, Guardian, Times, etc] no one made a big deal about it. I assume the sensationalist rags were different [Mail, Sun, Express, etc] but I have no idea).
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

DrQue

I just know that all these USWNT detractors were saying the same thing when the US basketball teams were destroying every nation's team in sight. I mean what Vince Carter did to that poor Frenchmen was completely uncalled for. /s
 

Kiva

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Quote from: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 04:01:21 PM

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

It'd be hard to mime that. Unless you are French!  Like Marcel Marceau ;D

Adam White

Quote from: Kiva on July 08, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 04:01:21 PM

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

It'd be hard to mime that. Unless you are French!  Like Marcel Marceau ;D

Maybe a more direct comparison would be miming eating a harmburger - or twelve.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Captain Zissou

^That's also pretty tough to mime.  What about somebody getting triggered and then raging about it online? That's very American.