10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo

Started by thelakelander, May 31, 2019, 08:39:49 AM

thelakelander

QuoteMost everything you write has a racial slant.  If it isn't overt, it's inferred.  You know it too.  I'm just old and cranky enough to call you out on it.

I don't mind being called out for sticking up, exposing underrepresented history, acknowledging social, preservation and economic issues that need awareness and advocating for equity and multicultural inclusion. Thanks, that means I'm doing my job.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Snufflee

And so it goes

Tacachale

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

thelakelander

Lol back to fields. Came across this public park in Pearl Court this past weekend.



I can't wait to see what Lenny has in store for the Landing site. Maybe we can throw up a fence and add some livestock. That will at least provide a touch of the past to the demolition story.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Snaketoz

Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
Lol back to fields. Came across this public park in Pearl Court this past weekend.



I can't wait to see what Lenny has in store for the Landing site. Maybe we can throw up a fence and add some livestock. That will at least provide a touch of the past to the demolition story.
Perhaps we can reclaim the name Cowford.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Downtown Osprey

Lakelander, thank you for pointing out the most obvious things that our city seems to fail upon. It's not rocket science, but we seem to keep going backwards with each administration. Seriously, do our city leaders not look more than 2-4 hours up north and see the success that cities like Savannah and Charleston have by following a simple formula? Preserve and embrace your history.

We should be boasting and shouting through the rooftops of all of the things that make Jax unique (which Lake has stated numerous times in this thread). From camel riders, seafood boils to even the birth place of southern rock, we don't embrace ANY of that. (Besides some signs they put outside the homes of the Allman Brothers and lynyrd skynyrd.)

And now, when we have a clean slate to revamp a dead Landing with many of the things stated above, we are turning it into a empty plot of land that will have weeds growing out of it in no time. It's so damn depressing.

vicupstate

QuoteSeriously, do our city leaders not look more than 2-4 hours up north and see the success that cities like Savannah and Charleston have by following a simple formula? Preserve and embrace your history.

I feel your pain. One thing that a lot of cities suffer from is the perception that if they don't have a significant cluster or 'district' of historic architecture, then what historic buildings they do have are not significant or worth saving.

If there isn't a least a neighborhood or an entire street of 'history' then it doesn't seem to register as sufficient and/or worthy.  That is a shame, but I find that attitude not only in JAX but elsewhere. Fortunately that attitude has seemed to disipate as time has marched on.       
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

Kerry

Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.
Third Place

Tacachale

Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

thelakelander

The fire started in LaVilla......right in the area that was settled by migrating freedmen largely from SC and GA, that emerged as an early ragtime, blues and jazz district.....An inclusive storytelling opportunity.....Hmm......
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Tacachale

Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn't have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

bl8jaxnative

If you don't believe in the flying spahgetti monster it only proves that you're too ignorant to be able to flying spahgetti monster.  Wonderful logic folks, keep it up.

If someone was actually afraid of people of color, there isn't a damn place in this town one could go - downtown, Riverside, Durbin Park, Wildlight, Orange Park, Ortega, Mandarin, Ft. Caroline, et al.  EVERYWHERE.   You just can't live in this city if that's your hangup.

It's not an issue of perception of fear, it's an issue of why risk it.  Like statistically you don't have to wear your seat belt but why risk it.   Dunn Avenue may not be Moncrief but it's a far cry from Argyle Forest Blvd, too. 

It ain't about color, it's about socio-economic class.  We have deep evolutionary things going on here about not feeling comfortable around things that are outside of the norm.   


A lot of coworkers have been talking about The Landing since it popped up in the news last year.  Not one has any of them mentioned they didn't feel safe there.  They all have said various combinations of:

a) I didn't know there were any stores left there
b) The restaurants left served crap food
c) I didn't know there were any stores left there
d) I never shopped there

Kerry

Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn't have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.

What would be cool is a series of markers (maybe at every block) which detailed the spread of the fire.  Things like time from start, what structures on that block were burned, any heroic tales, and of course any loss of life.
Third Place

Tacachale

Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2019, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: Kerry on June 06, 2019, 11:19:14 AM
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn't have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.

What would be cool is a series of markers (maybe at every block) which detailed the spread of the fire.  Things like time from start, what structures on that block were burned, any heroic tales, and of course any loss of life.

That would be really cool.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?