Shipping container apartment community planned for Cathedral District

[aubureck]

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/shipping-container-apartment-community-planned-for-cathedral-district

An apartment community of shipping containers is designed for the Cathedral District area of Downtown.

JWB Real Estate Capital submitted plans to the Downtown Development Review Board for the Ashley Street Container Project at 412 E. Ashley St.

The 18 studio units, stacked three floors, will rent for $550 a month.

"We are really doing the project because we would like to bring a groundbreaking concept like this to Downtown Jax, and hoping others will see it and continue to think outside the box to develop Downtown," said Jacksonville-based JWB Real Estate Capital President Alex Sifakis.

He estimates the project at $1.2 million.

Each 320-square-foot unit – 8 by 40 feet – would have a refrigerator, two-burner cooktop, microwave and under-counter washer-dryer.

There is space for a bed, sofa and two-seat counter. Plans indicate a bathroom with a toilet, shower and sink. Storage is designed in cabinets and a walk-in closet.

Three to four windows are on one side and a window or a balcony and sliding glass door will be on the end. Sifakis said the balconies will be created by opening the doors on the end of the container, fixing them in place and adding a floor and railing.

Fisher Koppenhafer is the architect.

"The most interesting thing about it is that it will be totally modular," Sifakis said.

He said more than 30 percent of the site will be green space or common area with pavers. A pergola is planned in the front and there potentially will be a gas fire pit in the back.

Sifakis said that while it isn't shown in the DDRB submission, his group intends for Art Republic to paint a mural on the side of the units facing Liberty Street.

Sifakis said the units and staircases will be able to be removed from the lot and relocated as needed.

Sifakis said the group would develop the project with used containers, which are available from vendors around Jacksonville. "There are plenty since we a port city," he said.

Sifakis said containers cost about $2,500 used and $4,000 new.

There will be no income cap for renters, he said. He doesn't expect more than two people would live in each unit.

Sifakis said the units will be built off-site and lifted into place. On-site construction could take two-three months, he said.

"We have already started building a model unit," he said.

Sifakis said units could be ready in five to eight months, barring delays, and JWB Capital is accepting interest from those interested in renting a unit.

Sifakis also intends to seek a Recapture Enhanced Value grant from the Downtown Investment Authority but did not know when.

"This isn't a project we are doing for the money, returns will be less than 6% on it," he said in an email.

The 0.13-acre vacant property is along East Ashley Street between Washington and Liberty streets. JWB Capital, through Hoose A LLC, bought the property Feb. 15 for $52,500.

JWB acquired the property from Orlando Realty Group LLC, which paid $30,100 in April 2017 for the tax deed on the site.

The city defines the Cathedral District as the area bounded by State, Ocean and Monroe streets and Hogans Creek.

JWB buys, develops, rents, sells and manages properties for its portfolio and for investors. It focuses on infill properties, especially single lots among developed and urban areas.

Sifakis said JWB owns close to 900 infill lots.

He said other cities have built projects using shipping containers, but he hasn't seen any in the U.S. with containers converted into individual 320-square-foot units and used as modular construction.

He said there have been such projects in Europe.

[tufsu1]

cool idea - and the location is ideal for something experimental like this

[Wombley Womberly]

Not sure about the location.  Otherwise a good proposal, IMO.

[acme54321]

Yeah definitely the most depressing part of downtown.  The remaining houses on those couple of blocks tell a sad story of what could have been.  Hopefully this kicks off some traction in that area but I doubt it.

[Wombley Womberly]

 There is not any included parking.

https://www.wokv.com/news/local/shipping-container-apartment-complex-proposed-for-downtown-jacksonville/Mx70kTeQK5KETaduKlqaHI/

[Steve]

There is not any included parking.

https://www.wokv.com/news/local/shipping-container-apartment-complex-proposed-for-downtown-jacksonville/Mx70kTeQK5KETaduKlqaHI/

Fine with me. Let the market decide.

[Kiva]

There is not any included parking.

https://www.wokv.com/news/local/shipping-container-apartment-complex-proposed-for-downtown-jacksonville/Mx70kTeQK5KETaduKlqaHI/

The rent is low enough that most of the tenants probably do not have cars.

[Jax-Nole]

I would definitely be worried about their safety in extreme weather. I can't imagine a 3-tall, 1-wide stack of shipping containers, as shown in the rendering in the Daily Record article, wouldn't topple in a hurricane, especially if they don't tie them down.

[acme54321]

I would definitely be worried about their safety in extreme weather. I can't imagine a 3-tall, 1-wide stack of shipping containers, as shown in the rendering in the Daily Record article, wouldn't topple in a hurricane, especially if they don't tie them down.

It's still a building, it has to be engineered and permitted just like anything else.

[MusicMan]

Interesting. I do not believe this is the first time this idea has been proposed for Jacksonville. I am pretty certain you will see another large, similar proposal for the Cathedral District vicinity in the very near future.

But this one is a welcome addition to downtown.  No doubt they will be firmly attached to one another and a foundation.  Will have to meet hurricane wind load construction requirements.  And certainly possible to string more than one together for anyone who wanted more space.

[Captain Zissou]

I would definitely be worried about their safety in extreme weather. I can't imagine a 3-tall, 1-wide stack of shipping containers, as shown in the rendering in the Daily Record article, wouldn't topple in a hurricane, especially if they don't tie them down.

These things have been through worse than a hurricane many times before.  Thrown on a ship, grabbed by a crane, dropped on a train, grabbed again by a crane, dropped on a truck, driven down the interstate.  Sitting on a concrete pad is a walk in the park.  I'm sure they will be securely fastened using those built in mechanisms that they've used dozens of times already.

[Steve]

I'd be more concerned with how they're going to insulate and keep them cool. It's not very much square footage to cool, but the sides of these things isn't really insulated and you can't add the insulation to the inside of them.

But hey, if they have a way make it happen.

[DrQue]

I'd be more concerned with how they're going to insulate and keep them cool. It's not very much square footage to cool, but the sides of these things isn't really insulated and you can't add the insulation to the inside of them.

But hey, if they have a way make it happen.

My thoughts exactly. These aren't intended to break a Cool Hand Luke.

[Charles Hunter]

I'd be more concerned with how they're going to insulate and keep them cool. It's not very much square footage to cool, but the sides of these things isn't really insulated and you can't add the insulation to the inside of them.

But hey, if they have a way make it happen.

Here's the first hit in a Google search, 4 ways to do it: https://www.buildwithrise.com/stories/4-ways-to-insulate-a-container-home
They do acknowledge that you will sacrifice some interior inches with most methods.

[Tacachale]

I'd be more concerned with how they're going to insulate and keep them cool. It's not very much square footage to cool, but the sides of these things isn't really insulated and you can't add the insulation to the inside of them.

But hey, if they have a way make it happen.

My thoughts exactly. These aren't intended to break a Cool Hand Luke.

Au contraire.