JAX/JIA updates

Started by ProjectMaximus, September 30, 2017, 12:26:49 AM

jaxdan3

As of 5/1/19 Air Canada is leaving JIA ending the nonstop Toronto flight. A bit of a setback after a string of new flights and record passenger growth.

jaxjags

Was this flight seasonal and be back next year?

jaxdan3

Quote from: jaxjags on February 24, 2019, 06:28:35 PM
Was this flight seasonal and be back next year?

It's been daily year round since 2017. I suppose it's possible to come back as seasonal next year.

JaxAvondale

I never got around to using that route but I rarely fly in the Star Alliance network.

Steve

Yea, not a positive. Curious the reason for the change, though almost always Load Factors of the flights play into it.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: jaxdan3 on February 24, 2019, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: jaxjags on February 24, 2019, 06:28:35 PM
Was this flight seasonal and be back next year?

It's been daily year round since 2017. I suppose it's possible to come back as seasonal next year.

It wasn't daily in the beginning (I think twice a week?) but it may have increased to daily at some point.

Quote from: Steve on February 25, 2019, 08:54:37 AM
Yea, not a positive. Curious the reason for the change, though almost always Load Factors of the flights play into it.

I only flew it once and iirc it was quite empty. Like 25-50%.


pierre


Westside Guy

It seems the airport is doing very well. Kind of makes you wonder what Air Canada is thinking by cancelling Toronto.

Steve

Quote from: Dolph1975 on March 01, 2019, 09:06:05 AM
Concourse B coming soon....

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/with-traffic-surging-jacksonville-international-airport-adding-3rd-concourse

Man, 2022 until a development agreement is in place? Seems like a REALLY long time. I realize though Airport Construction is never fast due to red tape.

Steve

Quote from: Westside Guy on March 01, 2019, 10:57:44 AM
It seems the airport is doing very well. Kind of makes you wonder what Air Canada is thinking by cancelling Toronto.

If the load factors are low, it may have just been a bad fit. I feel like this route was catered to business travelers (timing and anecdotal research on price wasn't exactly leisure friendly), but business travelers tend to stay loyal to their airline and air alliance. Florida is dominated by Delta/SkyTeam and American/OneWorld. Every US airline has a region of the country where they are weak: United is the Southeast, Delta is Texas and bordering states, and American is the Pacific Northwest.

Delta is going after their weakness with a massive expansion in Austin, American is tightening their relationship with Alaska (based at SeaTac), but I can't figure out what United is doing int he southeast.

Dolph1975

Quote from: Steve on March 01, 2019, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: Dolph1975 on March 01, 2019, 09:06:05 AM
Concourse B coming soon....

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/with-traffic-surging-jacksonville-international-airport-adding-3rd-concourse

Man, 2022 until a development agreement is in place? Seems like a REALLY long time. I realize though Airport Construction is never fast due to red tape.

I'm reading it to state that they want Concourse B to be in place (operational, perhaps) by Dec 2022.  I could be wrong though.

itsfantastic1

Quote from: Dolph1975 on March 01, 2019, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: Steve on March 01, 2019, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: Dolph1975 on March 01, 2019, 09:06:05 AM
Concourse B coming soon....

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/with-traffic-surging-jacksonville-international-airport-adding-3rd-concourse

Man, 2022 until a development agreement is in place? Seems like a REALLY long time. I realize though Airport Construction is never fast due to red tape.

I'm reading it to state that they want Concourse B to be in place (operational, perhaps) by Dec 2022.  I could be wrong though.

That's how I read it too.. "The solicitation package says Concourse B will need to be in place by Dec. 16, 2022".

thelakelander

Yeah, seems like they want it open by end of 2022. That's pretty quick.
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Steve

Yep, I'm a clown - misread it! They've had drawings done already for it, but I don't know how detailed the existing plans are. Perhaps they can just dust them off?