Bike Share Program Proposed for Jacksonville

[KenFSU]

Here is what NYC says to do if there is no dock.  Basically you select "No dock" from the kiosk and they give you an extra 15 minutes to find a dock.

https://help.citibikenyc.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002754911-I-can-t-find-a-dock

Which doesn't do you any good if the next station is full too.

Walking down 1st Ave on the Upper East Side tonight, I passed three full stations before seeing a station with a single open dock:



Personally, I like the idea of a dockless system that incentivizes riders to leave bikes at or near designated stations.

[Kiva]

Dockless would be a mess in Jacksonville. It is so spread out. Eventually half the bikes would end up in the St. Johns river!

[Steve]

Personally, I like the idea of a dockless system that incentivizes riders to leave bikes at or near designated stations.

I like that concept too. I'd also like to see a concept that uses "Corrals" instead of Docks. With a Corral, you still have a designated place but if you need to squeeze that extra bike (or 2 or 3 or 4) in there you can.

[Kerry]

The solution to NYC's problem seems to be - more docking stations.

[Adam White]

The solution to NYC's problem seems to be - more docking stations.

Luckily land is plentiful and cheap in NYC!

[Kerry]

The solution to NYC's problem seems to be - more docking stations.

Luckily land is plentiful and cheap in NYC!

Whatever dude.  However, I do retract my comment that they need more stations.  They clearly have plenty of those.  Maybe they just need riders who know to click the toggle button to show the open docks.

https://member.citibikenyc.com/map/

[Steve]

The solution to NYC's problem seems to be - more docking stations.

Luckily land is plentiful and cheap in NYC!

Whatever dude.

https://member.citibikenyc.com/map/

Good map and clearly they have a lot of docks. They also have a lot of people.

Certainly a useful map to get an idea of surroundings. Interesting how when you look at the docks with no (or few bikes), it's in the primarily residential areas. The opposite is true of the commercial areas. Makes sense in the middle of the afternoon on a weekday.

Probably not as useful once you take a bike and set out on your trip (as you likely can't change your destination based on dock changes during your ride).

There definitely are some dead areas though or areas without much dock capacity. I can see where the complaints can arise. It might not seem like a huge deal to ride 4 blocks and walk back, but if you're using it to get to work on a particular day I'd say that would suck.

[Kerry]

The same map is available on the app so you actually can look it up en route.  If you are on the fringe of the map then certainly a full rack would be more of a problem than someone who is surrounded by other stations.  I have to believe that if someone is fit enough to be biking through NYC then walking a few blocks from a less convenient docking station wouldn't be an undue burden.

However, maybe the auto-centric mentality of, "I have to park at the front door" has filtered down to bicycle transit community.

[Steve]

The same map is available on the app so you actually can look it up en route.  If you are on the fringe of the map then certainly a full rack would be more of a problem than someone who is surrounded by other stations.  I have to believe that if someone is fit enough to be biking through NYC then walking a few blocks from a less convenient docking station wouldn't be an undue burden.

However, maybe the auto-centric mentality of, "I have to park at the front door" has filtered down to bicycle transit community.

You're missing the point. If I look when I'm 10 minutes from a dock and there is 2 open slots, there's no guarantee that they will be there when I get there. I can't reserve a spot.

You're comment about parking right in front of my door is idiotic. That's not what I'm saying at all and no one believes that. But....it should be consistent. If I'm in NYC and I ride the subway, I don't care if it drops me 10 blocks from my office. But, I know I have a 10 block walk and can plan my day. If I drive to my office and park in a garage 5 blocks away then I can plan for it.

It's hard to rely on something when you need to be on time if you have to circle and find a place to lock up the bike.

[KenFSU]

Uber attempting to acquire Bird and/or Lime:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/1/18120933/uber-bird-lime-acquisition-negotiaton-report

[Kerry]

NYC is going to triple the size of the CITI bike program thanks to $100 million from LYFT.

https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/29/18117960/citi-bike-new-york-lyft-expansion-motivate

[bl8jaxnative]

Docks for bike sharing are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2017.   Geeeeez.  ;-)


https://ny.curbed.com/2018/7/27/17617782/bike-share-new-york-dockless-facts-information

[Kerry]

The deadline for JTA to select a bikeshare provider has come and gone.  I haven't seen anything in the media about so maybe JTA rejected all 4 proposals.

[thelakelander]

At our panel event last week, they said they haven't picked a firm yet.

[Kerry]

At our panel event last week, they said they haven't picked a firm yet.

Thanks.