Expanding the Skyway: Where would you like it to go?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, November 03, 2016, 05:45:03 AM

Tacachale

Quote from: thelakelander on January 16, 2018, 11:44:39 AM
If something like the Ollie vehicle, you're looking at 12 people max and 12 mph. Vegas currently has a trial version operating on real streets. Tampa and Gainesville will be doing the same, if they haven't already started. However, we may be the first to replace a fixed transit system with them.

Yeesh.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

FlaBoy

Quote from: thelakelander on January 16, 2018, 11:00:39 AM
Basically, that's my largest concern.....although IMO, it's also crazy to run streetcars in mixed traffic. In both scenarios, you hurt transit reliability and possibly clog up the streets moreso than they are today. It's sort of like advocating for sharrows when the most efficient and safe solution is to separate motorized and non-motorized modes completely.

If they are not planning for dedicated ROW, this will fail miserably.

SightseerLounge

#122
If you think the original "train to nowhere" was bad, the U2C will be a complete fail. There will be a novelty effect at first. Then, no one will ride! 30 years later and Jax is still making the same mistakes! They are just using autonomous technology to do the same thing as the old monorails. Why? Its like Jax is always always the experimental ground for what not to do! This is another shortcut to real mass transit to throw people of Jax off to the fact that the rest of town will still be dominated by roads. The First Cost Flyer was the other part of that plan.

It will be 30 years later, and Jax will finally want to have a real train. By that time, people will be teleporting to their destinations. This is a slap in the face to getting real transit down here.

If they wanted dedicated ROW, use the S-Line for the automated vehicles. Build that up until you have the ridership for real transit. I believe it might be a few other abandoned rail lines that could be used for this tech.

Ripping out the monorail beam of the Skyway is going to end up costing more than getting new monorails or buses.

They seem Hell bent on building this thing. It will just be another 30 year waste. Just when people were getting used to the Skyway, they want to tear it down for robot buses! How convenient?

SightseerLounge

#123
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on January 16, 2018, 10:02:23 AM
[quote author=SightseerLounge link=topic=28029.msg477052#msg477052 date=1516093151Someone got lazy, and they didn't want to procure new monorail vehicles! This is just Cost Flyer with the old adjust
They said the cost was prohibitive. The technology is antiquated.

They can't fool me! The Skyway is "The Automated Skyway Express". Is it not? This is just the Automated tech on rubber wheels. Why go through all of the demolition of the monorail beam when you can use it for a new monorail? Imagine if Disney did that. I believe their monorail beam is smaller than the Skyway's. Make those small adjustments to the beam and get the new vehicles! This U2C is going to balloon out of proportion!