City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development

Started by KenFSU, December 13, 2016, 10:43:41 PM

TimmyB

Quote from: remc86007 on March 08, 2017, 11:26:43 AM
Thus far could fairly be summarized as: we do better financially when the team doesn't suck.

Which is quite different than the Ford family's take on the Lions: "It doesn't matter if we suck; you clowns keep buying it!"

pierre


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remc86007

Quote from: pierre on March 08, 2017, 12:05:54 PM
The shipyards development proposed looks good.
Yeah, the map looks great. I think it was wise not to show a ton of flashy concept art.

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KenFSU

Quote from: remc86007 on March 08, 2017, 11:26:43 AM
Thus far could fairly be summarized as: we do better financially when the team doesn't suck.

My favorite was the chart showing that teams with more local revenue win more games.

In other news, people opening umbrellas leads to rain.


FlaBoy

Looked promising. They want to build a hotel and convention space across from the Flex Field. They want to move a majority of the park space to around Hogan's Creek's mouth at the river which is also the most expensive space to re-mediate apparently. They also have retail along Bay St. most of the way down to the stadium and Office/Mixed use next to the hotel/convention space.

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Here's my prediction - Shad's group will win the bid.  This will obviously be a phased project with Phase 1 being the land-swap details and the hotel on the current Met Park property.  That will probably be completed by this time next year.

The rest of it.....  I see a long, long time coming that will be determined mostly by however the private market is behaving. 

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Tacachale

It looks less insane than the last proposal, which is good. Physical design looks pretty good so far - that foot bridge would be cool. I agree with NRW, this will take multiple phases and will depend on the market for most of the other uses besides hotel and expo space to get built. It will be interesting to see how this will all be paid for - it doesn't sound like they're going to repeat the nonsense from last time, where the city was going to pay the Jags to take our land, and then give them all the tax money it generates.
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FlaBoy

Honestly though, putting in a hotel and some convention space at Met Park sets us up for a Draft maybe and I think is the foundation of another Super Bowl here in a decade. But moving the park space and getting the parks done will be key to seeing development from private investors down the line. I have heard rumors of JEA's new HQ ending up as part of that mixed use situation near the stadium though.

pierre

Khan said the team would bid to host the 2019 draft. My guess is the plan is to have part of this (mainly the hotel and some greenspace) done by then.

JaxAvondale

If the Jags/city is bidding for the 2019 draft then the hotel project needs to start soon.

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Quote from: JaxAvondale on March 08, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
If the city is bidding for the 2019 draft then the hotel project needs to start soon.

I'm willing to be that most of the pre-construction work is already done and I wouldn't be surprised if it's released for bid within weeks of getting approval by the city.
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