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Started by 02roadking, October 17, 2011, 08:22:01 PM

KenFSU

Good for Orlando.

Obviously a great city for tourists, but even with the renovations, the stadium and immediate area are pretty unspectacular.

Don't think Jax has much to worry about.

spuwho

Super Bowl Cities announced.

Super Bowl LI (2017) - Hou
Super Bowl LII (2018) - Minn
Super Bowl LIII (2019) - Atl
Super Bowl LIV (2020) - SoFla
Super Bowl LV (2021) - LA

I-10east

#1202
Quote from: KenFSU on May 20, 2016, 12:00:55 PM
Don't think Jax has much to worry about.

Worry about what?

KenFSU

Quote from: I-10east on May 24, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on May 20, 2016, 12:00:55 PM
Don't think Jax has much to worry about.

Worry about what?

Major events (soccer, marquee college football games, etc.) choosing Orlando over Jax, once the new stadium smell wears off from the Citrus Bowl.

mtraininjax

QuoteThe Citrus Bowl is named 'Camping World Stadium' Who knew?

Why not? The old Gator Bowl is now known as the Taxslayer (WTF?) Bowl, why not Camping World? Commercialism at its finest!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

spuwho

Ben Affleck, lover of au pairs, spouts off (warning: profanity) on the Tom Brady suspension.

His speech seems to be slurring, so I can't tell if that is his morning shot of bourbon, or the Xanax holding back his lower lip.

https://www.youtube.com/v/BhEqsNYLaSM

BridgeTroll

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2016/07/13/dallas-cowboys-head-the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-of-2016/#69a7d1736bd7

Jaguars are number 50...  8)

QuoteJUL 13, 2016 @ 09:45 AM
Dallas Cowboys Head The World's 50 Most Valuable Sports Teams Of 2016

Kurt Badenhausen

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell earned $145 million over the past four years, or $65 million more than the highest-paid player in the league during that time, Drew Brees. Critics have called for Goodell's scalp for the way he has handled recent scandals involving Tom Brady, Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice. But Goodell has delivered tremendously for the constituency that signs his checks: NFL owners.

NFL franchises make up 27 of the 50 most valuable sports teams in the world, including the Dallas Cowboys, who rank first with a value of $4 billion, up 25%. It is the first time a non-soccer club has reigned as the most valuable team since 2011 (the first year Forbes compiled a top 50 list). Manchester United held the crown in 2011 and 2012 and Real Madrid the last three years.

Goodell heads the most powerful and lucrative sports league in the world, and he's leveraged that power with broadcast TV contracts that are the envy of every other league. Take the NFL's Thursday night TV package: CBS and NBC agreed in February to pay a total of $900 million for the rights to ten games apiece over the next two years. The networks didn't even get exclusive rights as the games will be simulcast on the NFL Network—owned by the league's owners—and digitally streamed over Twitter in an attempt to reach cord-cutters. The "tri-cast" system means the NFL will generate revenue from rights fees, affiliate fees and advertising for every game.

The Cowboys are the poster child for the NFL's ability to make bank, with a sports-team record $270 million in operating profit during the 2014 season, $75 million more than any other franchise. Rich broadcast deals help raise the value of all NFL teams, but owner Jerry Jones separates the Cowboys from the pack by controlling and maximizing the revenue streams from his $1.2 billion home, AT&T Stadium. The team's premium seat revenue ($125 million) and sponsorship revenue ($120 million) are both tops in the NFL, despite the Cowboys' failure to make it to the Super Bowl over the past two decades. The Cowboys are also the only team to opt out of the NFL's licensed merchandise arrangement, which further swells Jones' coffers.

The NFL's 32 teams generated $2.4 billion in operating profit during the 2014 season, which was the first of the league's new network TV deals worth more than $5 billion annually. The average NFL franchise is worth nearly $2 billion, up 160% from $732 million a decade ago. The most valuable NFL teams after the Cowboys are the New England Patriots at No. 6 overall, worth $3.2 billion, and the Washington Redskins at No. 8, with Dan Snyder's squad worth $2.85 billion.

Real Madrid falls one spot to No. 2 overall at a value of $3.65 billion, up 12%. Real won its 11th European league title in May when it defeated Atletico Madrid on penalty kicks. The Spanish powerhouse, stocked with a pantheon of stars led by the world's highest-paid athlete Cristiano Ronaldo, tops a group of eight soccer clubs on our list. Real had the highest revenue of any sports team in the world at $694 million during the 2014-15 season. The club will get a boost from an extension to its Adidas kit deal signed earlier in the year. The pact is worth $1.6 billion over 10 years, or four times more than their previous agreement.

Nipping on Real's heels is its La Liga rival, Barcelona, which ranks third at $3.55 billion. Barcelona, home to five-time FIFA Player of the Year Lionel Messi, signed its own monster kit deal in 2016. The agreement with Nike NKE +0.10% is expected to set a record and be worth as much as $175 million a year, according to reports. Barcelona will kick off a $650 million renovation of its Camp Nou stadium next year. The project will modernize the stadium, expand capacity to 105,000 and help Barca challenge Real for the highest revenues in sports.

The New York Yankees rank fourth, worth $3.4 billion, up 6%. The Bronx Bombers head seven MLB teams in the top 50, down from 12 the previous year. Attendance fell 5.5% last year in the Bronx in the first season without Derek Jeter at short in two decades. The 3.2 million fans were still tops in the American League.

Rounding out the top five is Manchester United at $3.32 billion. United kicked off a 10-year, $1.1 billion kit deal with Adidas for the 2015-16 season, which softened the blow of missing the Champions League. United has the highest debt load of any of the top 25 most valuable teams.

The biggest mover in the top 50 is Stan Kroenke's Arsenal squad, which rose 13 spots to No. 23 with a value of $2.02 billion. The Gunners had the most expensive season tickets in the sport this year at $1,500-$3,000 for adults. Arsenal also received the biggest cut of Premier League TV money this season at $148 million, or $7 million more than Manchester City.

The biggest drop was the Ferrari Formula One team, which ranked 32nd in 2015, but fell out of the top 50. F1's richest team is worth $1.35 billion, flat from the previous year, but couldn't keep up with the exploding franchise values in team sports.

The average franchise in the top 50 is worth $2.2 billion versus $1.75 billion a year ago. The breakdown by sport is 27 NFL teams (versus 20 last year),  seven MLB (versus 12), eight NBA (versus 10) and eight European soccer (versus seven). The New York Knicks are the most valuable NBA team at $3 billion and rank No. 7 overall. No F1, Nascar or hockey teams made the grade. The minimum to make the cut is up 20% to $1.48 billion (Jacksonville Jaguars). There are 76 franchises worth at least $1 billion by our count.

Our franchise values are based on the Forbes valuations done over the past year for NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, F1, soccer and Nascar. Some team values have shifted since our last published reports, but they are not reflected here. Most notably, the former St. Louis Rams relocated to Los Angeles, increasing the team's value from our September estimate of $1.46 billion. Forbes' team values are enterprise values (equity plus debt) based on current stadium deals (unless a new stadium is pending).

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45fgemg/1-dallas-cowboys/#3d82044942d3
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

I-10east



Keith-N-Jax

I don't get it, the Chargers owner is willing to pay the NFL a 365 million relocation fee but not put that money towards building a new stadium in San Diego, and why would San Diego now build a stadium for the Raiders who I though was going to LV and not build one for the Chargers

spuwho

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on February 01, 2017, 05:25:37 PM
I don't get it, the Chargers owner is willing to pay the NFL a 365 million relocation fee but not put that money towards building a new stadium in San Diego, and why would San Diego now build a stadium for the Raiders who I though was going to LV and not build one for the Chargers

Because the City of San Diego wanted to use the current Mission Valley site for a new build. (where the current stadium is).

The Spanos Family wasn't going to put up any money unless the city offered a waterfront/downtown site where they could make more money on non-football activities.

The city wanted more control if a waterfront site was used because it was going to take a tax to get the downtown property paid for. (which got voted down)

So Spanos wanted more control over revenue with less risk to himself. (the downtown proposal)

The city was willing to give up control (Mission Valley), but the Spanos couldn't make more money on non-football activities there, so they walked.

Anyway you look at it Spanos made a terrible decision.  Look for a lot of losing seasons with the Chargers as they shed expensive talent over the next 10 years to pay the NFL mandated transfer fee.  It will be years before they either start winning again, or start making money.  They are going to be the LA Clippers of football for awhile until either their ownership changes, they move (again) or finish paying off the NFL.

Spanos could have had a metro market all to himself, but gave it up thinking sharing revenue in the bigger LA market was going a better play.

Spanos can go on ad infinitum on how "badly" he thinks the City of San Diego treated him, but an exclusive gravy train that you don't have to share is much better than the opposite.

The Chicago Bears used to complain miserably about playing in the old Soldier Field, but never put up any cash to help the cause. They and the city were at odds for years, but the descendants of Halas knew they had a great deal being the exclusive team in a market of 6+ million. They threatened to go to the suburbs, but never leave town.  It took 15 years and $100 Million of NFL money, but the new Soldier Field got built and everyone isn't complaining anymore.

If Spanos had showed the same level of tenacity, instead of worrying about Jerry Jones, his new stadium would be under construction right now.


Keith-N-Jax

I just went to Chicago this Sept and I think that's a great location for their stadium. I do agree bad decision for the Chargers owner and I hear LA doesn't even want the RAMS much less the Chargers also. I think the city of San Diego is also at fault, what's wrong with having a stadium DT, wouldn't other business benefit??

spuwho

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on February 01, 2017, 07:20:53 PM
I just went to Chicago this Sept and I think that's a great location for their stadium. I do agree bad decision for the Chargers owner and I hear LA doesn't even want the RAMS much less the Chargers also. I think the city of San Diego is also at fault, what's wrong with having a stadium DT, wouldn't other business benefit??

The people of San Diego were not against a waterfront/downtown stadium, they were against using tax dollars to take valuable real estate and give control to one entity. (Spanos)

Keith-N-Jax

AKA bad owner, glad we have Khan

I-10east

#1214
I'm most likely not shocking anyone but it's basically a done deal, the Las Vegas Raiders are in the future. IMO it would be a good move for the Raiders to leave OAK for more vibrant LV; a much better decision than the LA Chargers fiasco (LA people doesn't seem to care at all). If SD ever get their act together with a stadium, I could see the Chargers even moving back in another decade.

The Raiders will do very well in Vegas IMO; it's the perfect Pacific Time Zone area with a base of people that actually care there (unlike the Chargers), tourism with visiting fans, and opportunities for major stadium related events. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evEFvUJCemc