Congress bans live streaming on the floor

Started by spuwho, December 29, 2016, 10:32:37 PM

spuwho

Stirred up that Dems used Facebook Live to "broadcast" the gun control sit in (after CSPAN turned off), new decorum rules are being setup to ban future streams from the floor.

Lawmakers Seek to Ban Live Video Streams in Congress

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350651/lawmakers-seek-to-ban-live-video-streams-in-congress

Periscope and Facebook Live streams from Congress gave live video on social media new legitimacy as a newsmaking tool during a sit-in in June, but the Republican House leadership is now proposing rules that would ban it.

US Representatives could face a $500 fine for broadcasting audio or video via social media or any other means from the chamber floor under the proposed decorum rules, Bloomberg reported. The fine, which would be garnished from lawmakers' paychecks, would jump to $2,500 for a second offense.

Republican leadership under House Speaker Paul Ryan proposed the new rules as a response to a sit-in organized by Democrats in June to force a vote on gun control legislation. The sit-in began shortly after the House entered a recess on June 22 and official cameras were turned off. C-SPAN broadcast Periscope and Facebook Live streams from Reps. Beto O'Rourke and Scott Peters, among others, during the 25-hour sit-in.

Rep. O'Rourke, of Texas, had more than 2,000 viewers on his Facebook Live stream. Rep. Peters, of California, recorded a series of Periscope videos throughout the day, including one that was approximately 45 minutes long.

House decorum rules already prevent live video feeds from devices other than the official cameras, and Ryan's crackdown would make it easier to punish offenders.

"These changes will help ensure that order and decorum are preserved in the House of Representatives so lawmakers can do the people's work," AshLee Strong, a spokesman for Ryan, said in a statement to Bloomberg. The proposal is set for a vote on Jan. 3, once the new Congress takes office.

BridgeTroll

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Seems like they are banning independent live streams rather than an official live broadcast.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Noone

Not good.
Restricting Free speech for Joe Q. Public through the legislative process is next in Duval county. This will be at the 4 pm. 12/9/16 Jacksonville Ethics Commission meeting in the Don Davis room. Is this beeing reported anywhere?
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finehoe

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 30, 2016, 07:42:53 PM
Seems like they are banning independent live streams rather than an official live broadcast.

Heaven forbid anything but the "official" word go out.

BridgeTroll

Not heaven... congress. Not sure I understand what the problem is. CSPAN broadcasts proceedings live and alternative broadcasts were already banned. The article is pretty bereft of any background facts historical or otherwise.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

JeffreyS

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 30, 2016, 07:42:53 PM
Seems like they are banning independent live streams rather than an official live broadcast.

They cut the CSPAN feed on the sit in that prompted the Dems to start streaming. BT this is not ok.
Lenny Smash

BridgeTroll

They were in recess no?  So it seems they want live streaming for protests?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Congress is a place for debate between opposing viewpoints. While in recess during the "protests " there is no debate. It is a very one sided affair.  There is nothing stopping congressional protesters from doing so and live streaming from anywhere they wish.  I encourage them to do so.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Perhaps Congress should remain in session 24/7/365...  8)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

spuwho

Quote from: stephendare on December 31, 2016, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 31, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Congress is a place for debate between opposing viewpoints. While in recess during the "protests " there is no debate. It is a very one sided affair.  There is nothing stopping congressional protesters from doing so and live streaming from anywhere they wish.  I encourage them to do so.

not sure what you are saying here.

Do you mean other than the new law?

I think he was saying they can live stream a protest all they want, just not from the floor of the house.

spuwho

Quote from: stephendare on December 31, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
Quote from: spuwho on December 31, 2016, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: stephendare on December 31, 2016, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 31, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Congress is a place for debate between opposing viewpoints. While in recess during the "protests " there is no debate. It is a very one sided affair.  There is nothing stopping congressional protesters from doing so and live streaming from anywhere they wish.  I encourage them to do so.

not sure what you are saying here.

Do you mean other than the new law?

I think he was saying they can live stream a protest all they want, just not from the floor of the house.

technically he wasn't, but probably is what he meant. ;)

and why?  They were elected my a pretty large group of people to be there, and the House belongs to The People.

Its a silly law, and its like the bans on photography inside malls.  That was great when people were using bulky cameras, but once the phone became the photo device, it seemed pretty damned stupid to have a photo ban in the first place.

I was doing a photo project on a "pay it forward" activity and the Publix manager waived his arms at me and said "no photos in the store, Publix doesnt permit it!"

But while I agree the Congress belongs to the people, to maintain effectiveness and order to conduct the peoples business, it must have a level of decorum and rules so that activities and votes can move through cleanly and efficiently.

The House already had a "no video" rule in place but with no penalties or consequences. This rule change updates it. When the rule was made, most congressmem probably didnt even know how to stream from their phones. Until now.

If I was privately discussing some key legislation with the House Minority Leader at her desk, I wouldnt want someone leaning over me with their iPhone webcasting my conversation.



finehoe

Quote from: spuwho on December 31, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
But while I agree the Congress belongs to the people, to maintain effectiveness and order to conduct the peoples business, it must have a level of decorum and rules so that activities and votes can move through cleanly and efficiently.

The House already had a "no video" rule in place but with no penalties or consequences. This rule change updates it. When the rule was made, most congressmem probably didnt even know how to stream from their phones. Until now.

If I was privately discussing some key legislation with the House Minority Leader at her desk, I wouldnt want someone leaning over me with their iPhone webcasting my conversation.

But BridgeTroll is arguing that there should be no streaming during recesses:

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 31, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
Congress is a place for debate between opposing viewpoints. While in recess during the "protests " there is no debate. It is a very one sided affair.  There is nothing stopping congressional protesters from doing so and live streaming from anywhere they wish.  I encourage them to do so.

BridgeTroll

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

I think that all happened when congress was in session
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."