The Case for Gary Johnson

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Terrible option....Sorry

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and murder_me_rachel you hit the nail on the head.....

[freetek]

doesn't want to let the legislature do its job.

That's true - he wants the legislature to do a job FOR, not TO the people as far too many do today.

[barberofdeville]

Small business men and lower level public servants with an education founded this country. When they did it was not perfect as they were not groomed leaders of the aristocracy only citizens just a bit higher on the food chain then common citizens.

Not so far removed from the trials and tribulations of governmental control and taxation without adequate and equal representation to the extremely wealthy higher ups in government and in the aristocracy as the other citizens. Coming from many beliefs even including agnostics and atheists, political leanings, and mindsets.

They were forged in a time that was preceded by the age of enlightenment and became the age of reason. At the time they came to some ideas that were popular and could be implemented and some not popular which one day could be.

They formed the articles we hold most dear and set them so we could find a better future free of tyranny from rulers be it religious or mass and mob rule in hopes mankind under our flag would unite as human beings and prize freedom of conscience. Not to be given that future but for those willing to fight for it the ability to do so peacefully or by force when necessary.

We have leaders currently that emulate aristocracy and are far removed from the populace who have been groomed by parents to be in office, many coming from prominent families and some by the grit of their own spirit and brought up the ranks by their own hard work coming from modest beginnings.

Both types reside in party affiliations separate from the others the modest being the few in each.

This year it is ever present that we have main party choices who do not believe in ethics or moral soceital common law and feel above it. They see the American people as beneath them and to be ruled. With the exception of one who made his own way without a silver spoon, ran a successful ethically managed company to a million dollar business not a billion and decided to run for office in order to effect change.

Many do not know him before this election outside his state which he ran ethically and with a extremely high bipartisan approval rating, vetoing many legislations he felt not in the peoples interest at great disapproval from other politicians bipartisanly. That's because he did well and was more worried about the service of the people he served than fame.

He is transparent and believes in you and America. I will return that favor when the time comes and vote for him. I hope you will too.

If you are unfamiliar do your own research on his track record as a person, as a construction worker, as a business owner, a family man, an adventurer, as a public servant, and as an American.

Out of two lesser evils I will choose neither. I have the choice of an American Citizen who knows what it's like on this side of the fence as well as the other. He is capable. I will choose him.

Gary Johnson/Bill Weld 2016

[FSBA]

Johnson's running mate, former Massachuessets governor Bill Well will be holding a town hall event this Thursday at JU.

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Awesome, how do we get tickets?

[FSBA]

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/jacksonville-town-hall-forum-with-governor-bill-weld-tickets-27793187171

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Registered! Thanks.

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Crazy turn out. They had to use 2 overflow rooms. The live feed has been viewed over 175,000 times, and it's only been a few hours.
I think he did a good job, he's a very good public speaker.

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This ticket should have been flipped.

[Adam White]

If you are unfamiliar do your own research on his track record as a person, as a construction worker, as a business owner, a family man, an adventurer, as a public servant, and as an American.

Out of two lesser evils I will choose neither. I have the choice of an American Citizen who knows what it's like on this side of the fence as well as the other. He is capable. I will choose him.

Gary Johnson/Bill Weld 2016

HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/gary-johnson-aleppo.html

Oh wait, you were serious?
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Don't forget:

Small business men and lower level public servants with an education founded this country. When they did it was not perfect as they were not groomed leaders of the aristocracy only citizens just a bit higher on the food chain then common citizens.

[Adam White]

I am so sick of this BUSINESS IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING notion.  Being a small businessman doesn't make you competent to run a country; it doesn't make you some  more-noble-than-everyone-else figure.  Furthermore, a country should not be run on the principles of capitalism.  S

ure, there's pleeeeeeeeeenty wrong with Clinton, and anyone who isn't by now truly afraid of a Trump presidency really has something wrong with him.  But, this clown, Johnson, is NOT the answer.  Libertarianism is a joke.  All the corporate-centric facism of Trump and Clinton, BUT WITH WEED, and oh by the way your child just died from lead poisoning because fuck any sort of regulation! YEE-HAW!!!

You're not going to get an argument from me, that's for sure.

I do, however, disagree with the contention that the so-called 'founding fathers' were small businessmen just a bit higher on the food chain than common citizens.

[Tacachale]

I am so sick of this BUSINESS IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING notion.  Being a small businessman doesn't make you competent to run a country; it doesn't make you some  more-noble-than-everyone-else figure.  Furthermore, a country should not be run on the principles of capitalism.  S

ure, there's pleeeeeeeeeenty wrong with Clinton, and anyone who isn't by now truly afraid of a Trump presidency really has something wrong with him.  But, this clown, Johnson, is NOT the answer.  Libertarianism is a joke.  All the corporate-centric facism of Trump and Clinton, BUT WITH WEED, and oh by the way your child just died from lead poisoning because fuck any sort of regulation! YEE-HAW!!!

If there's any way to make a serious political point, it's SHOUTING CAPITALS, SARCASTIC WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD LENGHTENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING AND MULTIPLE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yee-haw.

[finehoe]

Positions Johnson either holds or has held on nearly 20 key issues:

    * He supports TPP.
    * He supports fracking.
    * He opposes any federal policies that would make college more affordable or reduce student debt. In fact, he wants to abolish student loans entirely.
    * He thinks Citizens United is great.
    * He doesn't want to raise the minimum wage. At all.
    * He favors a balanced-budget amendment and has previously suggested that he would slash federal spending 43 percent in order to balance the budget. This would require massive cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and social welfare programs of all kinds.
    * He opposes net neutrality.
    * He wants to increase the Social Security retirement age to 75 and he's open to privatization.
    * He opposes any kind of national health care and wants to repeal Obamacare.
    * He opposes practically all forms of gun control.
    * He opposes any kind of paid maternity or medical leave.
    * He supported the Keystone XL pipeline.
    * He opposes any government action to address climate change.
    * He wants to cut the corporate tax rate to zero.
    * He appears to believe that we should reduce financial regulation. All we need to do is allow big banks to fail and everything will be OK.
    * He wants to remove the Fed's mandate to maximize employment and has spoken favorably of returning to the gold standard.
    * He wants to block-grant Medicare and turn it over to the states.
    * He wants to repeal the 16th Amendment and eliminate the income tax, the payroll tax, and the estate tax. He would replace it with a 28 percent FairTax that exempts the poor. This is equivalent to a 39 percent sales tax, and it would almost certainly represent a large tax cut for the rich.

Also of paramount interest to young voters, elsewhere at Mother Jones, site manager Jeremy Schulman posted a clip from 2011 (viewable at the link) in which Johnson told attendees of a National Press Club luncheon that climate change, though real and "man-caused," "is completely inconsequential to the money that we would end up spending."

"Should we take the long-term view when it comes to global warming?" Johnson asked. "I think that we should, and the long-term view is that in billions of years the sun is going to actually grow and encompass the Earth, right? So global warming is in our future."

Schulman writes that "Johnson's 2011 comments weren't an aberration":

    Over the past few years, he has spoken out repeatedly against environmental regulation. In a 2011 NPR interview, he instead called for a "free-market approach" to reducing carbon emissions, arguing that consumer demand for cleaner energy, coupled with cheap natural gas, was causing a shift away from coal. He made the same argument during a Libertarian presidential candidate debate in May 2012. "If government gets involved" in fighting climate change, he said, "we are going to be spending trillions of dollars and have no effect whatsoever on the desired outcome."

    During his 2012 campaign, Johnson called for cutting federal spending by 43 percent. In one interview, he noted that this would also mean a 43 percent reduction in the Environmental Protection Agency's budget. (During that same interview, he repeated his statement about the sun eventually destroying the planet: "Long-term consequence of our existence in the whole scheme of things is the sun is getting closer to the Earth and that at a point in the very distant future, the sun will actually encompass the Earth. So global warming is something that's going to be inevitable.")

In July, during the current election season, Johnson briefly flirted with the idea of a carbon tax after answering "No," in an appearance on Real Time With Bill Maher, to the question of whether he had a "comprehensive plan to combat climate change."

    But then Johnson's stance changed dramatically. In an August interview with the Los Angeles Times, he announced he was "open" to the idea of the federal government imposing a revenue-neutral tax on carbon emissions. Economists have long viewed a carbon tax as the most efficient way of putting a price on greenhouse gas emissions in an effort to limit warming—many see it as preferable to the complex cap-and-trade proposal backed by President Barack Obama during his first term. In a subsequent interview on CNBC, Johnson called a carbon tax a "very libertarian proposal" under which "the market will take care of" climate change. (During the Democratic primaries, Bernie Sanders endorsed a carbon tax; Clinton did not.)

    Many Libertarians and conservatives were outraged by Johnson's sudden embrace of a carbon tax. "It's Official: Gary Johnson Is a Left-Wing Candidate," declared the Federalist, a conservative publication. After plenty of public criticism from the right, Johnson changed his mind, telling supporters at a New Hampshire rally that after considering a carbon tax, "I have determined that, you know what, it's a great theory, but I don't think it can work, and I've worked my way through that." His flip-flop drew loud applause from the crowd.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/hey_millennials_heres_what_gary_johnson_believes_video_20160923

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Holy hell there's so much wrong with finehoes post I'm not even going to touch it.

I'll say this to the Clinton/Trump zombies on this board: if you like the direction of the country, keep voting the same.
If you like how our current country is treating minorities, even with a black president, keep voting the same.
If you like the countless wars that Clinton will bring, keep voting the same.
If you like the idea of the country being more divided as Trump is doing, keep voting the same way.
If you like the war on drugs, which will continue with both Clinton and Trump, keep voting the same way.
And of course, if you like the deficit doubling each presidency, R or D, keep voting the same way.

I'll be voting my conscious.