Jaguars amphitheater, flex field construction to begin next month

Started by paul_bcb, March 17, 2016, 12:52:52 PM

tufsu1

Quote from: RattlerGator on August 22, 2016, 03:37:36 PM
This begs the question, spuwho: how can stephendare possibly know what Shad has and has not done in this community along the lines of philanthropy?

Let's keep things in perspective....what Khan has done philanthropically in this community is laughable compared to Wayne and Delores Weaver.

tufsu1

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 22, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 22, 2016, 02:35:17 PM

wow.  it almost looks the same.

Like if it were repackaged by Big Lots ten years after it had become a 'thing'.

Thanks to Brandon Poarch for creating the comparison graphic.

I'm pretty sure this is what happened after the DIA review.  The first set of renderings didn't fit the current landscape to their liking.  ;)

to my knowledge, there was no DIA Board or DDRB review of the project.  Perhaps DIA staff were involved somehow

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: tufsu1 on August 22, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 22, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 22, 2016, 02:35:17 PM

wow.  it almost looks the same.

Like if it were repackaged by Big Lots ten years after it had become a 'thing'.

Thanks to Brandon Poarch for creating the comparison graphic.

I'm pretty sure this is what happened after the DIA review.  The first set of renderings didn't fit the current landscape to their liking.  ;)

to my knowledge, there was no DIA Board or DDRB review of the project.  Perhaps DIA staff were involved somehow

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Quote from: jaxjaguar on August 22, 2016, 04:28:18 PM
We'll see when it's all finished how it looks.

Unfortunately, if it ends up looking like this, when it's finished will be too late.


heights unknown

LOL. And that's what usually happens in Jacksonville. Big dreams, plans, vision, etc., and then at the end you end up with a bargain warehouse looking structure.
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KenFSU

^Evidentials?

Baseball Grounds, Veterans Memorial Arena, Main Library, Everbank improvements, Friendship Fountain refurb, and even the Courthouse (could have had a more striking design, but I wouldn't call it bargain warehouse looking) all hit it out of the park.

mtraininjax

Who cares what it looks like, as long as its better than what is there now.
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Captain Zissou

Quote from: mtraininjax on August 23, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Who cares what it looks like, as long as its better than what is there now.

What's there now is an under-utilized field.  An on fire burger king would be better than what's there now, but that doesn't mean it's the highest and best use for the space or the city's money. 

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 23, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
What's there now is an under-utilized field.  An on fire burger king would be better than what's there now, but that doesn't mean it's the highest and best use for the space or the city's money.

On fire burger king would be a pretty unique attraction...as well as an homage to its birthplace in Northeast Florida. You're a genius CZ!

FlaBoy

Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 23, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 23, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Who cares what it looks like, as long as its better than what is there now.

What's there now is an under-utilized field.  An on fire burger king would be better than what's there now, but that doesn't mean it's the highest and best use for the space or the city's money.

...It is a practice field with an amphitheater. You people are acting like God himself was supposed to come down and dwell in this building as the remake of the Temple in Jerusalem. Every school in the SEC has a practice facility. Most NFL teams have them. The tax dollars went towards an amphitheater which usually are less cool than the one we got.

See Tampa for example:


KenFSU

We already know that one of Khan's main goals is to turn football games at Everbank into full weekend experiences, with a major concert at the amphitheater the night before games, with the hope of drawing more visitors into town for Jags games (perhaps staying at the hotel he has spoken of wanting to build across from the stadium). Just curious what you guys think the actual gameday experience will look like next fall? How does the addition of a full sized covered football field and/or ampitheater, in the proposed configuration, best enhance the home game experience?

Keith-N-Jax

I think it will be great, Jags fans love to tailgate and  any extra activities will be great. The Fla/Ga game will be even better than before.  I think it will be a while before you see anything in the shipyards though. Though I am still disappointed in the design, maybe after it is complete it may grow on me. Still very glad the project is moving forward and has broken ground.

KenFSU

Quote from: FlaBoy on August 23, 2016, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 23, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 23, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Who cares what it looks like, as long as its better than what is there now.

What's there now is an under-utilized field.  An on fire burger king would be better than what's there now, but that doesn't mean it's the highest and best use for the space or the city's money.

...It is a practice field with an amphitheater. You people are acting like God himself was supposed to come down and dwell in this building as the remake of the Temple in Jerusalem. Every school in the SEC has a practice facility. Most NFL teams have them. The tax dollars went towards an amphitheater which usually are less cool than the one we got.

See Tampa for example:

Quotehttp://dansmark.com/past_current_projects/Tampa_amphitheater1.jpg

Of the $90 million approved by the city for renovations at Everbank (split evenly with the Jags), we know that $26.6 million went toward redoing the club level. This means that the flex field and amphitheater, with shared superstructure, will have a price tag of nearly $65 million. Cannot imagine the final venue feeling cheap or low-rent at that price. That's the equivalent of two Baseball Grounds. For context, Amazon's new 2.1 million sf build-out is expected to cost around $87 million.